The World?

[ozonez]

What will the world be like in this game. Has any discussion been mentioned in an interview about loading, environment, etc...

I really don't want another Final Fantasy Game with STUPIDLY long waiting times when u switch to a different screen, full gameplay would be awesome (like GTA) and could provide a richer environment.

[Desi]

Yes information has already been released and discussed.

Monsters are on the visible on the map and have their own eco-system behavoir. The land is technology and nature. Maybe a few ruins or so in Pulse that mimic modern, victorian, medieval, or ancient age.

Nothing has been said about loading yet but I still expect it unless they smart up and use artifical ways to prevent loading. But given from the clip of them showing off Cocoon, the whole thing was one map so that could mean it has no loading but the inside of buildings weren't visible so take that as you wish. Pulse wasn't in the same video though.

[Alphonse]

Thats cool! I didnt know that so does cool news! Thanks!

[Allen Walker]

The world should be nice considering the developers said the setting was futuristic like. A bit of fantasy hear and there would be nice but not a total overflow. *cough*FF12*cough*

[Desi]

The world should be nice considering the developers said the setting was futuristic like. A bit of fantasy hear and there would be nice but not a total overflow. *cough*FF12*cough*

Pretty strange to call XII a overflow of fantasy when IX and X had much more in my opinion (crystal chronicles has a lot as well). XII does come after those in the amount of fantasy though.

[Allen Walker]

FF9 and 10 have a fantasy setting mixed with a good plot. FF12 has fantasy without a plot.

[Desi]

FF9 and 10 have a fantasy setting mixed with a good plot. FF12 has fantasy without a plot.

Didn't we go over X's crappy plot in another thread a couple days ago?

[ozonez]

and you call IX plot good? the game is about some gender confused wanker who wants to destroy the planet but monkey boy, a black kid, a girl who wears nothing and some weird animal man stand in his way. Along with the fact that they didn't make the dungeons big enough so they jsut increased the random encounter rates to make the game seem longer.

[Fenristh]

Heavenly Sword streams the game off the Blu Ray Disc and hides the one load time at the beggining of each chapter with a cut scene, so I hope they do something like that. The load times for Motorstorm for example are pathetic. It takes forever to scroll through the cars or whatever to find one you like.

[Allen Walker]

Didn't we go over X's crappy plot in another thread a couple days ago?

Thats an opinion mind you. But judging from your responses on these forums, you think its a fact. I'm not gonna bother arguing here since you alwasy counterattack everything somebody says.



and you call IX plot good? the game is about some gender confused wanker who wants to destroy the planet but monkey boy, a black kid, a girl who wears nothing and some weird animal man stand in his way. Along with the fact that they didn't make the dungeons big enough so they jsut increased the random encounter rates to make the game seem longer.


All right then, you tell me what makes a good plot?

[masamune]

Well, i think the ambientation of FFXIII can be great with this mix between tech and fantasy. If the loads can't be taked out i would be happy with big envyroments to explore so that you don't need to change screens so often.

[Desi]

a black kid
you're just jealous


Thats an opinion mind you. But judging from your responses on these forums, you think its a fact. I'm not gonna bother arguing here since you alwasy counterattack everything somebody says.Why can't it be fact? I demand the revoke of opinions!

[Allen Walker]

Son, we all live in our own world ya know. That means everything I say is fact and everything YOU say is a fact. That way, we are all happy.

[Fenristh]

Everyone knows that Desi's opinion is fact, its just something you have to deal with. :rolleyes:

As for the FFXIII world, I hope they dont have that shitty airship travel from FFX and make a world map again.

[Desi]

Versus will controllable airships so I don't see why XIII wouldn't.

Son, we all live in our own world ya know. That means everything I say is fact and everything YOU say is a fact. That way, we are all happy.Reminds me of a storyline in SMT: Nocturne.

[Fenristh]

Good. ;p

I wonder what theyre do about size proportions. They could make them to scale. D: That would be cool.

[Desi]

If the world isn't to scale for some reason they should get shot in the hands. Stops them from programing anymore. No reason not to have proper scales. PoPoLoCrois on the PSP (port) is to damn scale and I love it.

[ozonez]

Thats an opinion mind you. But judging from your responses on these forums, you think its a fact. I'm not gonna bother arguing here since you alwasy counterattack everything somebody says.

IX sucks compared to XII story, graphics and character wise. Balthier and Basch own the shit out of any IX character.

All right then, you tell me what makes a good plot?

Mr T equipped with a grenade launcher which he fashioned from a toilet. Now thats a plot, not some gender confused wank riding a dragon who thinks he can own everything by talking stupidly and walking like a tree on steroids. The game is the worst out of every FF there is. The story had no continuous hardcore storyline, characters didn't really join because they wanted to save the world, they joined because they randomly met the main party. Amarant for instance joins for no fucking reason at all and wtf was with the Freya's dance scene? river dance? wtf square? At least XII was serious about whatever storyline it had.

To Desi:

So real-scale airships will be flyable? are we talking spastic world map viewing (birds eye) or actual behind the airship controlling?

[Desi]

Hey hey! IX was great, it was like the best of IV and V without the best of V (job system) but kept the humor of V. You weren't supposed to take it seriously and that return to the classic style is what made it so appealing. I know a lot of people that dislike it but that is mainly because they don't like a lot of the older games as much.

The airship is probably third person view. It has been said that is is controllable.

[Flint]

Hey hey! IX was great, it was like the best of IV and V without the best of V (job system) but kept the humor of V.

FFIX was quite good but it just didn't grab me as much as a lot of the other FF games did. It's a decent game, but not one of my favourites. I liked Zidane as a character, but most of the others were pretty forgettable. It would have been better if you could have had Beatrix as one of your regular party members as she was far more interesting and likeable than the useless waste of space that was Quina.

The overall storyline was okay but not exactly one of the best, Kuja was a pathetic villain (just a petulant child who got angry because he didn't get what he wanted) and I'm sure you're familiar with what I think about the final battle with the Necron;)

Back on topic:

For the FFXIII world I just want to see consistency in the design and I want the exploration and freedom from FFXII rather than the linear pathways of FFX.

[ozonez]

For the FFXIII world I just want to see consistency in the design and I want the exploration and freedom from FFXII rather than the linear pathways of FFX.

Agreed, i do hope the pathway system will be freedom, i don't expect complete freedom aka: Assassins Creed freedom but a lesser freedom would be nice. if they really want the games to be more like the Advent Children movie then they need freedom. Driving the airships will be awesome tho. I hope they go back to the "you get an airship later in the game" rather then XII version where it was "you get an airship almost at the beginning of the game but you can't use it due to some stupid plot device"

[Desi]

You got airships early that you couldn't always use in IV, V, and maybe even IX.

useless waste of space that was Quina.
YOU SHUT YOUR DIRTY MOUTH ABOUT MY QUINA! I see Quina as more of a play on the 'character that joins for little reason'. You know what I am talking about: the dude that meets you to go to a area but doesn't leave or the person you save and decides to tag along or even worst the "you are strong" dudette. More comedy.

[Flint]

YOU SHUT YOUR DIRTY MOUTH ABOUT MY QUINA!

I find the fact that you like Quina so much oddly amusing...:)

Agreed, i do hope the pathway system will be freedom, i don't expect complete freedom aka: Assassins Creed freedom but a lesser freedom would be nice.

I just want to be given a world that I can explore at my own pace and where there are lots of opportunities to go to places off the beaten track. I don't want a return to the FFX system of walking down a straight path which you can't deviate from and where there's little scope for exploration.

[Desi]

When I get home I'll post some Quina cosplay and pics.

Oh and the JP loved X a little too much. The walking Line was amazing.

[Allen Walker]

Mr T equipped with a grenade launcher which he fashioned from a toilet. Now thats a plot, not some gender confused wank riding a dragon who thinks he can own everything by talking stupidly and walking like a tree on steroids.

So basically, your saying that destroying a planet, destroying the universe/crystal means absolutely nothing if the person thats doing it looks like a transsexual? I guess that means Shuyin is a better villian then since he's a human.

The game is the worst out of every FF there is.
Worst than 10-2 ?

The story had no continuous hardcore storyline, characters didn't really join because they wanted to save the world, they joined because they randomly met the main party. Amarant for instance joins for no fucking reason at all

And about the characters, dont even tell me that they just "randomly" joined the part. What about all those other random characters that entered the party for no reason?Yuffie, Vaan, Penelo, Umaro, Gogo, Gau, Bartz, Edge, etc. Some of those that I've listed have no business to be in the party as well.

and wtf was with the Freya's dance scene? river dance? wtf square?
You sir, fell victim to the FF7 and 8 curse.

At least XII was serious about whatever storyline it had.
lol, were both lost on the story. XD
Basically to sum the story of FF12: Nethicite and Empire. Thats bout it.


I hope you reply to this.

kthxbai *is a queer*


When I get home I'll post some Quina cosplay and pics.
SQUEEEEE!!!!

[Desi]

actually Bartz was the main and whole purpose was to follow in the steps of his father (outside of what kain wanted) even if he didn't know. Edge joined for vengence against of want Rubecant did to his parents (made them a ugly sad monster boss) who just so happens to be working for Zemus.


QUINA TIME:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v733/Marsalis/9-quina-a.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v733/Marsalis/cosplayodd20mz2bs.jpg

OH QUINA I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW TO QUIT YOU!

[ozonez]

So basically, your saying that destroying a planet, destroying the universe/crystal means absolutely nothing if the person thats doing it looks like a transsexual?

Yes.


Worst than 10-2 ?

I don't count that as an FF.

And about the characters, dont even tell me that they just "randomly" joined the part. What about all those other random characters that entered the party for no reason?Yuffie, Vaan, Penelo, Umaro, Gogo, Gau, Bartz, Edge, etc. Some of those that I've listed have no business to be in the party as well.

Yuffie: Cos she wanted to bang Tidus, duh.
Vaan: Cos he wanted to be a sky pirate, one of the main themes of XII is that Balthier is a sky pirate, Vaan wants to be one, Vaan has that nethicite and bargains with Balthier
Penelo: Cos she wanted to bang Vaan and she didn't have any other friends.
Bartz: As stated by Desi.

lol, were both lost on the story. XD
Basically to sum the story of FF12: Nethicite and Empire. Thats bout it.

The storyline of IX is basically, Zidane and party go to area, area gets attacked by a monarchy, Zidane and party fight, slightly winning but then the enemy uses some stupid attack which renders them powerless. Monarchy takes over area, repeat about 3-4 times and u get IX storyline.

[Fenristh]

Awww Desi you got my hopes up. :( I thought i was gunna see YOU cosplaying as Quina!

[Desi]

Yes.

I don't count that as a FF. but it has jobs! massarced from their original glory but jobs none the less.

Yuffie: Cos she wanted to bang Tidus, duh. wrong game?
Vaan: Cos he wanted to be a sky pirate, one of the main themes of XII is that Balthier is a sky pirate, Vaan wants to be one, Vaan has that nethicite and bargains with Balthier He is the players eyes, he is a civilian that lost what he loved to the empire. he is full of bias and hate, larsa opens him up somewhat because he is a gangsta with those cute green pumps.
Penelo: Cos she wanted to bang Vaan and she didn't have any other friends.I still say she is a pessimist (opposite of vaan), always thinking the worst so she wants to stay with vaan to make sure she doesn't lose him as well
Bartz: As stated by Desi.YA boi...that felt awkward


Not to burst your bubble but cloud is a tranny. it has been discussed already. Shit every main in FF is a tranny; Amano, Nomura, Yoshida, that guy that does tactics advance art! All four different guys, all tranny drawers. Sadly enough Squall may be the only non-tranny. MY GUY IN XI IS A TRANNY!! oh noes.

Awww Desi you got my hopes up. I thought i was gunna see YOU cosplaying as Quina!That would have been epic. But i only want to cosplay as Sieg Warheit from Chaos Legion even if the game is junk, Hot Topic outfit all the way...

[ozonez]

Not to burst your bubble but cloud is a tranny. it has been discussed already. Shit every main in FF is a tranny; Amano, Nomura, Yoshida, that guy that does tactics advance art! All four different guys, all tranny drawers. Sadly enough Squall may be the only non-tranny. MY GUY IN XI IS A TRANNY!! oh noes.

That would have been epic. But i only want to cosplay as Sieg Warheit from Chaos Legion even if the game is junk, Hot Topic outfit all the way...

Exactly, evil trannies suck, good trannies take it up the arse.

DO YOU SEE WHAT I DID THERE???? DO YOU? HUH?