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Fenristh
Sep 20 2007, 07:05 PM
"After adamantly insisting that you do not videotape or record the screening in any way or else, the Square Enix private theater showcased numerous titles from the ever-expanding Final Fantasy universe. The first trailer on display was the lead game in the Fabula Nova Crystallis series, Final Fantasy XIII. In English, a narrator explains a corruption that seems to plaguing the land. "Those tainted by the outside were exiled," he explains.

Earlier trailers highlighted Lightning, but the trailer at TGS showed off a number of new characters, environments and creatures. A gunman that seems to have specific mastery over water shoots a crystal, creating a massive water summon. Paths of ice form in the sky, as he rides along on a motorcycle. Certainly, a spectacle to behold. Then a massive African-inspired scene provides a stark contrast to the futuristic environments we've seen of the game so far. Fantastic Mammoth-like beasts walk across a river in a scene that could've been ripped out of a Afrika gone slightly astray. Debuting in this new trailer was a brand new female character that stands, staring at a frozen planet orbiting in the sky. The trailer ends with a proud proclamation "PS3 Only," to silence any doubters.

Once again, we were stunned by the visuals of the trailer, which went beyond the quality of most Hollywood productions. The new dry landscape showcased provides reassurance that the game will not remain stagnant in its visual look.

However, in spite of the incredible excitement generated by the trailer, we were surprised that a different game in the Square Enix theater stole the show."

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/09/20/tgs07-final-fantasy-xiii-trailer-impressions/

:rolleyes:

Cathryn
Sep 20 2007, 07:27 PM
Bitch you bragger. :cunning:
We rule ;P (By that i mean PS3 or Soon to be PS3 owners)

Synesis
Sep 24 2007, 12:35 AM
Wewt! I was getting increasingly speculative as to the loyalties of Enix. This is great news for the PS3 as a whole. Perhaps 'The Last Remnant' will be an ease for 360 fans.

Muramasa
Sep 24 2007, 04:42 PM
Mmmm...The Last Remnant...almost as good as doughnuts...:lol:

Well, joking aside, there were alot of rumors that FFXIII wasn't PS3 exclusive. But developers to try to hide they're secrets with lies.

But I do thing they're telling the truth this time.

John
Sep 25 2007, 03:52 PM
Well, as long as they clarified that it's a Playstation 3 exclusive then that will ease the tension in arguements about being it on the 360, haha

Fenristh
Sep 25 2007, 05:10 PM
Sadly, I doubt that. The rumors will go on and on and on...

Rade
Sep 25 2007, 05:50 PM
What was the game that stole the show?

Fenristh
Sep 25 2007, 06:21 PM
Versus XIII

Allen Walker
Sep 25 2007, 06:25 PM
Poor xbot fans, they'll never get to play a great RPG.

Desi
Sep 26 2007, 12:48 PM
Versus XIIIBiggest amount of bull I read all this morning. Nobody even gave a damn about FF the whole show.

Flint
Sep 26 2007, 01:27 PM
Poor xbot fans, they'll never get to play a great RPG.

What about Lost Odyssey, Cry On, Mass Effect, Infinite Undiscovery, Fable 2 and The Last Remnant?



Nobody even gave a damn about FF the whole show.


Seems about right - outside of the FF obsessives no-one could give a damn about trailers for the FFXIII games that contained no new in-game footage and practically no new information on the stories, characters or gameplay.

Fenristh
Sep 26 2007, 01:43 PM
Biggest amount of bull I read all this morning. Nobody even gave a damn about FF the whole show.

He was asking what they were referring to in the article, smart ass. :rolleyes:

Seems about right - outside of the FF obsessives no-one could give a damn about trailers for the FFXIII games that contained no new in-game footage and practically no new information on the stories, characters or gameplay.

Wrong, read the descriptions. New characters were shown in both XIII and Versus.

Flint
Sep 26 2007, 02:12 PM
Wrong, read the descriptions. New characters were shown in both XIII and Versus.


But have you actually seen those new characters? Do you really know anything significant about them? Anyone who didn't attend the show didn't get to see the trailers, so to the average person there was no real new information.

All we gained was the knowledge that one character was "a girl in a skirt" and another was "a man with a shotgun". I'm sorry, but that is practically worthless to pretty much anyone. They were only shown in the minimal new footage that the trailers contained (which as I said, hardly anyone has seen), and we know next to nothing about how they truly fit into the storyline or about their personalities - all there is is just speculation and fan theories, there is very little absolute fact.

Add to the fact that we still don't know any more significant information about Lightning or FFVersusXIII's main character (why have they still not revealed his name???) than we did this time last year and you can see why to a lot of people TGS was such a disappointment.

Sorry for the rant, it's just I'm really, really losing my patience with Square and the way they choose to present their games to the fans. We probably know more about The Last Remnant and Infinite Undiscovery than we do about FFXIII and both of those games were only revealed this year. We've been waiting an absolute age for the FNC games and still, they give us nothing.


To get back on topic, Square saying that FFXIII is PS3 only is all well and good, but I wonder if the same applies to Versus? Could that game go multiformat?

Shiva
Sep 30 2007, 08:45 PM
To get back on topic, Square saying that FFXIII is PS3 only is all well and good, but I wonder if the same applies to Versus? Could that game go multiformat?
I doubt Versus'd go multi platform. It just wouldn't be right, and alot of people know that that would upset all of the rabid FF Fans out there.

Synesis
Sep 30 2007, 08:54 PM
I doubt Versus'd go multi platform. It just wouldn't be right, and alot of people know that that would upset all of the rabid FF Fans out there.

Square will obviously have their fans in mind in making a decision to go multi platform but money will probably be above us on the list, sadly. I think though that The Last Remnant was created to kind of soften a blow to 360 gamers - not solely created for that reason , but I think it's multi-platform for that reason.

Valintine
Oct 06 2007, 12:07 AM
In various interviews with people, Nomura has remined people that Square has decided to keep XIII and vXIII an exclusive for the PS3. Am I the only one after waliing away from a trailer that at the end said "PS3 ONLY" would believe that its actually only for the PS3

Xion
Oct 06 2007, 07:25 PM
I rather not get into this topic, but id like to remind everyone that as long as their is no definitive bond to a console like for example, a game being published by SCE or MGS (1st party) then the possibility of a game going multi-platform allways exists. Square Enix has adopted the strategy of going for multiple formats much like Capcom, and there have been reports of Talks between Microsoft and Square to bring FFv13 to the 360, i wouldnt be surprised if it happened, and i dont think ayone other than true loyalists would be shocked either.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/825/825397p1.html

"we have to release titles across multiple formats. We used to release a title exclusively for one format. I feel it's crucial we release titles for multiple platforms as most of the Western publishers are doing."


Devil may Cry 4 was allways touted as exclusive until it suddenly wasn't, One of the devs or something of RE4 for Gamecube said he would cut his own head off before it went to PS2..and then it did. All im saying is dont get your head all cought up in this stuff, it could happen, dont stake your life on things that are allways possible, and dont waste your time arguing over it.

Muramasa
Oct 11 2007, 05:27 PM
Everone who's figured out my secret by now are pobably waiting for me to put my word in on this, but I'm not.....f*** it.

VSXIII, PS3 (360, still being discussed)
XIII, PS3 ONLY
Agito, you know.

There's also two more installments to the FFXIII saga, but I'm in the dark on that one.:(

Flint
Oct 12 2007, 04:45 PM
Everone who's figured out my secret by now are pobably waiting for me to put my word in on this, but I'm not.....f*** it.

Are you trying to tell us you work for Square-Enix or something?

If you are then you're going to have to provide some kind of proof of that. Not that I'm calling you a liar or anything, but you appreciate that people can come onto forums and pretty much make up any nonsense that they like, right?

Muramasa
Oct 12 2007, 04:49 PM
Several already know.
Though thay may/may not believe me.:(

But I'm used to that, so no hard feelings to skeptics.^_^

Flint
Oct 12 2007, 04:55 PM
Random guess at Muramasa: you work in localisation/testing?


Slightly more back on topic:

Square Enix has adopted the strategy of going for multiple formats much like Capcom, and there have been reports of Talks between Microsoft and Square to bring FFv13 to the 360, i wouldnt be surprised if it happened, and i dont think ayone other than true loyalists would be shocked
either.

I wonder if things will go the other way - will PS3 owners eventually see a release of Infinite Undiscovery on their machine?

I still think Sony will do their best to keep FFXIII exclusive for as long as they possibly can, (even though it could be ported to 360 sometime after it's PS3 debut) having seen the boost to sales of the PSP at the release of Crisis Core, they're probably banking on something similar happening for the PS3 at FFXIII's arrival.

Muramasa
Oct 12 2007, 05:17 PM
Testing, Chracter design, and animation Flint.

No, FFXIII is (I'd better be right) definately without a doubt PS3 only.
As I said, FFvsXIII is being discussed for 360 development, though it dosen't look got on that point.

You all know where Agito's going, as for the other XIII titles, I'm still in the dark.

Flint
Oct 12 2007, 05:33 PM
Testing, Chracter design, and animation Flint.

Nice!:)

Character design, is it? Do we have the future Amano or Nomura in our forum?^_^

Muramasa
Oct 12 2007, 07:41 PM
Nice!:)

Character design, is it? Do we have the future Amano or Nomura in our forum?^_^

Wish there was a blushing smile here.
Na, I'm not nearly as good as Mr. Nomura. Though my WHOA!!!:ohmy:
Gotta watch what I say here.

Jeez I started typing it and backspaced it all.:lol:

Desi
Oct 12 2007, 09:00 PM
I say we ban Muramasa.

Yurian
Oct 13 2007, 03:45 AM
2Muramasa:
Testing, character design, animation: those are all starkly different fields when comparing them within a game design company. Not to be a hard-ass, but I'm highly skeptical that you're working for a gaming company at your age. Besides the fact that it's already highly competitive to get a position, much less within a distinguished company, it usually takes years for one to become regarded in one of the before-mentioned categories.

EDIT: Woe to my second-thoughts. Why am I concerning myself over something that's probably not true? If you prove to me that you're working as a game tester, a character designer, and an animator for a gaming company, I will be blown away - literally, and figuratively. It's just that 1) your age - 18 - is highly ridiculous to be working as the before mentioned professions 2) it'd be career suicide if you were revealed to be giving out classified information, much less hinting at it 3) 3 different talents? 4) wouldn't you be kind of busy right now, considering that working as those before mentioned professions is extremely time-consuming (as I've heard)?

N O C T E
Oct 13 2007, 04:00 AM
2Muramasa:
Testing, character design, animation: those are all starkly different fields when comparing them within a game design company. Not to be a hard-ass, but I'm highly skeptical that you're working for a gaming company at your age. Besides the fact that it's already highly competitive to get a position, much less within a distinguished company, it usually takes years for one to become regarded in one of the before-mentioned categories.

EDIT: Woe to my second-thoughts. Why am I concerning myself over something that's probably not true? If you prove to me that you're working as a game tester, a character designer, and an animator for a gaming company, I will be blown away - literally, and figuratively. It's just that 1) your age - 18 - is highly ridiculous to be working as the before mentioned professions 2) it'd be career suicide if you were revealed to be giving out classified information, much less hinting at it 3) 3 different talents? 4) wouldn't you be kind of busy right now, considering that working as those before mentioned professions is extremely time-consuming (as I've heard)?

..............Damn.:|

Fenristh
Oct 13 2007, 11:44 AM
I say we ban Muramasa.
I second that.

Like fuck do you work for Square Enix. -_- I totally agree with Yurian. No one person doesnt Character Design, Animation and testing. Why bother trying to make people believe you, millions of people have done this crap before you know, it's hardly original. :crazy:

Rade
Oct 13 2007, 12:47 PM
As some proof I would like to see some of Muramasa's character designs, not from the game he's working on obviously (if he is working on a game), but just in general. Then I'll decide for myself if it's good enough to warrant a place on the production staff of a top Square-Enix game.

ronking
Oct 19 2007, 03:19 AM
They've changed Final Fantasy 13 to ps3 because of the amount of graphics that the game holds. It was originally meant for ps2 but it occured that the console couldn't handle the amount of graphics. Shame really.

Muramasa
Oct 19 2007, 04:29 PM
I say we ban Muramasa.

No offence Desi, but for that comment: Go into a little corner and fuck yourself, kay?:nag:

EDIT: If you don't want to hear my comments on SE projects, just say the word and my mouth's shut.

Desi
Oct 19 2007, 07:58 PM
No offence Desi, but for that comment: Go into a little corner and fuck yourself, kay?:nag:

"No offense?" Such a disclaimer, might as well start a new paragraph with "I'm not racist but..."

Muramasa
Oct 19 2007, 08:45 PM
Ok, much offence Desi.

BlueOni
Oct 19 2007, 09:37 PM
Does SE have some kind of deal with Sony to make the FF series exclusive on the Playstation? I know about the occasional Nintendo FFs but they're not part of the main series.

Muramasa
Oct 22 2007, 04:34 PM
We're under contract with Sony and Nintendo.

We pay them a certain % of our profits from released games, and they let us make games for their systems. Simple, sometimes.

BlueOni
Oct 22 2007, 06:09 PM
So what's stopping SE from releasing FF games on the XBox and Wii? Isn't there profit to be made?

Desi
Oct 22 2007, 08:46 PM
stop listening to him. Maybe he'll go away.

Square is just being dicks. They can release games on any console they please. The Last Remnant and Infinite Undiscovery (published) are both going on Xbox 360. Dragon Quest Swords, chocobo dungeon, two FF: Crystal Chronicle games are heading to the wii. Every developer has to pay a console manufacturer a certain amount to release their games on a system.

Yurian
Oct 22 2007, 10:56 PM
Does SE have some kind of deal with Sony to make the FF series exclusive on the Playstation? I know about the occasional Nintendo FFs but they're not part of the main series.

I think the reasons why FFXIII/FFvXIII may be exclusive to the PS3 are:
1) Technological capacities: only the PS3 can support the technological necessities of both games.
2) Funding/Marketing: Sony may be funding SE to gain exclusivity for both games. After all, FF is a huge franchise and the console company may be banking on them to help boost sales.

In response to Muramasa's explanation, I have to say it's quite obvious that SE has to pay a certain percent of their revenue to Sony. It's like that for any system SE decides to use. Indeed, it's like that for any Gaming Development Company when considering which console to use. Continuing the SE situation, I also have to add that not only does Sony need FF to gain more PS3 buyers, Sony - as given by the previous sentence - is letting (with a price of course) SE use their console: it's less of a 'simple sometimes' situation and more of a 'how much dang money can we (SE and Sony) get in?' situation.

EDIT: Oops - Desi already made the point.

Firewolf
Oct 23 2007, 04:52 AM
dont want to get off topic but how do u obtain more memory for the ps3??

Muramasa
Oct 23 2007, 04:45 PM
So what's stopping SE from releasing FF games on the XBox and Wii? Isn't there profit to be made?

If you wanna know something, send me a PM, I'm not getting banned for telling the truth.

ukillwegrill
Nov 19 2007, 02:04 AM
i Read in OXM that it has been stated that FF13 may is not going to be "locked down" as an exclusive PS3 title although there are no plans as of yet, to release it for the XBOX360.

To me this seems like square enix are stalling to see wether or not PS3 sales pick up.


This is GREAT news as i just sold my PS3 ( it was crap TBH )

Although if an announcement isnt made by mid 08 then ill have to buy a new one

Blu Ray Disc
Nov 19 2007, 03:16 AM
All I know is that Ff13 and FFV13 are in development for the PS3. That Muramasa guy was obviously full of crap for lying that he was an SE employee. Full of crap. All the production is going on in Japan right? And, all the SE people are secretive anyways, so they can't release any info, so here is this guy making up all sorts of crap to get noticed. Just like a little kid.
As for the PS3 exclusiveness, doesn't Sony own some of SE's stock? Wouldn't that give Sony somewhat of an iron fist over SE?
What I heard about the "lock down" thingy, is that SE confirmed that FF13 and Versus13 are for PS3, and that plans for Xbox are a blank slate. If they decided to suddenly just decide to make it for Xbox also, then they would have to rework a lot of things on top of the actual development to get it onto the Xbox. That is inconvenient, and the titles are being produced through the White Engine. Last time I checked, I'm sure the White engine was being used on the PS3, not the 360.
But, then again, who knows what'll really happen.
I personally want FF13 to stay a PS3 exclusive because I support PS3 and want it to compete at the same level as the Xbox (since it got the advantage of one year.)

Adamant Weapon
Nov 19 2007, 05:50 PM
I swear! I really don't get the f***ing bull! All the damn rumors and talks about PS3 titles crossing over to the Xbox!

What's with the damn generosity?! I say screw Microsoft! There is only one console that will rule them all!

Yeah, you guessed it...

Allen Walker
Nov 19 2007, 06:59 PM
I swear! I really don't get the f***ing bull! All the damn rumors and talks about PS3 titles crossing over to the Xbox!

What's with the damn generosity?! I say screw Microsoft! There is only one console that will rule them all!

Yeah, you guessed it...

I love the PS3 as well, but that was rather fanboyish.

BlueOni
Nov 19 2007, 07:58 PM
I love the PS3 as well, but that was rather fanboyish.

There is no such thing, only true believers and infidels. Sony shall reign supreme.

Fenristh
Nov 19 2007, 08:40 PM
I love the PS3 as well, but that was rather fanboyish.
At least he isn't making up facts. I hate when fanboys do that. -.-

ukillwegrill
Nov 19 2007, 09:41 PM
the white enginge is built with all the 7th generation platforms in mind it would take very little to tweak it to work with the xbox 360 although it would still be a port
As for the stock problem i dont think sony can really use that as any leverage ( 10%) unless they own a majority share if they did SE would be classified as a first party developer.
SE have also went on record statin that although they are loyal to sony they wont be too loyal


i just hope it comes to 360 so i dont have to get another Ps3......... at least for a while

Kitmitsu
Nov 19 2007, 10:22 PM
the white enginge is built with all the 7th generation platforms in mind it would take very little to tweak it to work with the xbox 360 although it would still be a port

We know pretty but nothing about the engine, how do you know that?


i just hope it comes to 360 so i dont have to get another Ps3......... at least for a while

Another? What? XD

Adamant Weapon
Nov 19 2007, 11:03 PM
It was fanboyish... I admit that when it comes to the PS, oh you bet I'm a fanboy!!!!

Honey, the PlayStation has perhaps the best games that ever came out. Sure, the Nintendo 64 did have Ocarina of Time, but to me that's it!

PlayStation is home to some of the best RPGs and for God's sake! It's the home of MGS!!!!!

And it's just like what BlueOni said:

There is no such thing, only true believers and infidels. Sony shall reign supreme.I mean look at it this way: Sony was what put Sega out of the game of console-making...

So Sony doth reign supreme!

ukillwegrill
Nov 19 2007, 11:48 PM
We know pretty but nothing about the engine, how do you know that?


Another? What? XD


Square Enix stated in an interview(the same one were the said they had no plans for an xbox version) that the white engine has been built from the ground up for Next Gen console(s)
Although maybe im reading into it too much



i sold my last as it didnt have many good exclusives and the multiplatform games such as call of duty i had for xbox as did all my friends so i prefered to play with them as opposed to complete strangers all the time

Fenristh
Nov 20 2007, 12:12 AM
Im pretty sure that Sakaguichi said that and he has nothing to do with Square anymore... so I don't know how he would know.

ukillwegrill
Nov 20 2007, 12:19 AM
Im pretty sure that Sakaguichi said that and he has nothing to do with Square anymore... so I don't know how he would know.

Im not sure who was bein interviewed it was sometime ago i read this ill see if i can find the article

Blu Ray Disc
Nov 20 2007, 02:39 AM
From what I know about the White engine, it was being specifically made for the PS3's cell processor and that it would use 6 or 7 SPE's. But, that's just what I heard, it could be false.
From what I do know, FF13 and Versus13, there are no plans yet for an Xbox port, and i personally think there won't be a port.
Xbox is a great system and all, but it has the advantage of one year, which many overlook. SO there goes a lot of criticism to the PS3, which many should just lighten up or something.

Kitmitsu
Nov 20 2007, 02:51 PM
Right, White Engine status:

E3 2006: Engine built for Square-Enix's next generation titles. Specifically is designed to use the PS3's cell processor (uses 4 out of the 6 cell microprocessors).

Random Interview with FFXI Developer in September: Tanaka says it's Cross Platform and looks forward to using it.

I'd have to say I'm sticking with the PS3 exclusive thing at the moment. Sure, the white engine could be ported over in the future if they wanted to but that would require them recoding the games. FFXIII and Versus will not see a launch on another system. That was reiterated at Square's TGS Presentation thus this topic was born. Yes, if the engine is ported over other new games could use it but FFXIII and Versus will not.

Also there's no way in hell it works on all 7th generation platforms...the Wii...seriously?

ukillwegrill
Jul 28 2008, 01:15 PM
I was so right. Everyone sucks but me

Kitmitsu
Jul 28 2008, 01:23 PM
Well I predict that it'll rain tomorrow. OMG 50/50 CHANCE MEANS I EM SMRT!

Seriously, gtfo and don't bump old threads.

Fantasygurl1227
Jul 28 2008, 04:25 PM
I was so right. Everyone sucks but me
Your statement = fail
NOBODY CARES. and no you have no bragging rights, you guessed, and it happened. So cookies for you. Now STFU please.

LightningXIII
Jul 28 2008, 05:39 PM
I was so right. Everyone sucks but me
Let's not jump the gun before the game comes out please.

Fantasygurl1227
Jul 28 2008, 09:02 PM
Let's not jump the gun before the game comes out please.
You never know, the port to the 360 might not be worth the effort, there is A LOT of time before this game comes out. And they made this decision pretty fast, I don't know if they thought it through completely. We'll see now won't we. With SE anything is possible at this point.

soulasssns
Jul 31 2008, 08:49 AM
There is no such thing, only true believers and infidels. Sony shall reign supreme.

You speak ony garbage, the language of the fanboy :P

Zodiak
Aug 05 2008, 11:45 PM
You never know, the port to the 360 might not be worth the effort, there is A LOT of time before this game comes out. And they made this decision pretty fast, I don't know if they thought it through completely. We'll see now won't we. With SE anything is possible at this point.

I don't think it will be either. 360 fans just don't care enough about it to want to buy it.

Xion
Aug 06 2008, 12:11 AM
I don't think it will be either. 360 fans just don't care enough about it to want to buy it.


Youre being a Troll...here you are, one person that im Guessing doesnt even own a 360, speaking for the 20+ million 360 owners in the world >_<

Cmon man, dont be so dense...

Kitmitsu
Aug 06 2008, 12:18 AM
I think this thread may be a little outdated now and served it's purpose.

*Closed*