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Mikao
Aug 26 2006, 06:04 AM
To pluto's planethood that is...

And then there were eight...
By Alan Crosby in Prague
August 25, 2006
PLUTO was stripped of its status as a planet overnight when scientists from around the world redefined it as a "dwarf planet", leaving just eight classical planets in the solar system.

With one vote, toys and models of the solar system became instantly obsolete, forcing teachers and publishers to scramble to update textbooks and lessons used in classrooms for decades.

"Pluto is dead," Mike Brown of the California Institute of Technology bluntly said on a teleconference.

Discovered in 1930 by the American Clyde Tombaugh, Pluto has traditionally been considered the ninth planet, farthest from the sun in the solar system.

However, the definition of a planet approved after a heated debate among 2500 scientists from the International Astronomical Union (IAU) meeting in Prague drew a clear distinction between Pluto and the other eight planets.

The need to define what is a planet was driven by technological advances enabling astronomers to look farther into space and to measure more precisely the size of celestial bodies.

Mr Brown added impetus to the decades-old debate on the definition of a planet when he discovered UB313 in 2003. Xena, as it is nicknamed, is larger than Pluto, instantly creating a buzz over whether a new planet had been discovered.

The scientists agreed that, to be called a planet, a celestial body must be in orbit around a star while not itself being a star.

It must be large enough in mass for its own gravity to pull it into a nearly spherical shape and have cleared the neighbourhood around its orbit.

Pluto was disqualified because its oblong orbit overlaps with Neptune's. Xena also does not make the grade of being a planet, and will also be known as a dwarf planet.

"It's an issue mainly for the public, not really for scientists. Some people may be upset, but we've long regarded it (Pluto) as a minor planet," said Richard Miller of the University of Chicago.

The new definition - the first time the IAU has tried to define scientifically what a planet is - means a second category called "dwarf planets", has been created, as well as a third category for all other objects, except satellites, known as small solar system bodies.

"We are just defining a new class of planets and I think it's very appropriate. We are finding more planets in our solar system, and some are larger than Pluto," said Philip Diamond, a professor at the University of Manchester and a delegate attending the IAU meeting.

"I think what we have done is a good thing, we have actually expanded the number of planets in our solar system, but just spread them over two categories."

From now on, traditional planets will be restricted to eight: Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune.

Meanwhile, the widow of Clyde Tombaugh said he would have understood why his discovery was demoted to non-planet status because he was a good scientist.

"Clyde said, 'Well, it's there. You can do what you want with it'," Patricia Tombaugh, 94, said from her home in Las Cruces, New Mexico.

Her husband, who discovered Pluto while working at the Lowell Observatory in Arizona, was disappointed and frustrated when scientists began questioning its status.

But, she said: "Clyde would have said, 'Science is a progressive thing and if you're going to be a scientist and put your neck out, you're apt to have it bitten upon'."

Mrs Tombaugh said a tiny amount of her husband's ashes were on a spacecraft bound for Pluto


Source: FF Spirit Forums

Isn't it just so hard to cope with? Pluto is no longer a planet. The agony I have to go through is just too much! :(

Desi
Aug 26 2006, 06:27 AM
I remember discussing pluto and its orbit in Earth Science several months ago. Since it is supposed to have a orbit similiar to a comet or meteor or something of that sorts. But now that Pluto is no longer a planet what is stopping the scienctist of changing the rules yet again and naming any current planet that is not a solid(or solid enough to have ground) it isnt' a planet. That would surely make 1/3 of our current roster invalid.

Cloud
Aug 26 2006, 09:22 AM
Wow, that's going to be weird. Eight planets from now on. I guess it's bye-bye to the distant frozen iceball.

But I guess that goes to show that we're constantly discovering new things in the Solar System, and with gradual changes as time passes on, we have to redefine what we've come to know.

Cool.

Kadaj
Aug 26 2006, 01:23 PM
I thought you were leaving. XD

Thats lame of them to change everything we've learnt in school about planets because its "too small". -_-

Enedok
Aug 26 2006, 02:46 PM
Well, I'm going to tell my kids about Pluto. And Charon, Ceres and Xena.

They are not "dead". It's still out there.

For me, we have 12 planets.

Desi
Aug 26 2006, 10:58 PM
But I guess that goes to show that we're constantly discovering new things in the Solar System, and with gradual changes as time passes on, we have to redefine what we've come to know.

Well that isn't really a gradual change. Pluto is something of a decent(but small) size unlike a common asteriod. It's kind of like telling people that Africa isn't a contienent anymore but a country but i do that anyway because i can't name more then three countries in it...yep Africa is a country.

Cloud
Aug 27 2006, 12:46 AM
Sorry, I meant "gradual changes", as in changes in what we know. Not Pluto, slowly shedding some mass, or something like that. :)

Omni-Cloud
Aug 28 2006, 04:32 AM
And to think...Pluto was always the planet I forgot about in 1st grade XDDD

It was meant to be :rolleyes:

Xelien_5.0
Aug 28 2006, 07:48 AM
NO not pluto!!!! u can call me a werid anime freak for all i care but i still watch sailor moon(since it twas my first anime *flashbak*good times....) and sailor pluto was one of my favs!!! its worng if they take pluto away!!!

as far as the other new planets go, i dont mind them, :thumbsup: for Charon, Ceres and Xena

Omni-Cloud
Aug 28 2006, 03:25 PM
Hmmm...if theirs no pluto....that must mean that your sailor Pluto is A FRAUD!!!!!

XD

Sorry, j/k

I used to watch that show a looong time ago XD

But aaanyways,

It does suck that pluto is gone....

Our solar system sucks now!

:rolleyes:

Mikao
Aug 28 2006, 05:39 PM
It shouldn't change how we feel at all and yet it feels emptier for some reason.

Just for the record Pluto isn't "gone" it is merely not a planet anymore. :P

Anyways OC, I agree our solar system sucks now! XD

Hextan
Sep 06 2006, 01:31 AM
This is the sweatest news I have heard in months.

Unknown Kaze
Sep 06 2006, 09:59 AM
it feels like our solar system has been castrated..... I bet Andromeda has more planets than we do....