Remake - A Good Idea?

[BlueOni]

Do you think a remake of FFVII would be any good? Could S-E live up to the expectations? Could they enhance the gameplay while retaining the greatness of the plot and the adventure?

Personally, I have my doubts, after FFXII, whether S-E are capable of going back to the "old days", when it was just Squaresoft. But they are still one of the most professional companies in the industry and could add a lot to the gameplay at least. I'd like to see a four-man party, a lot of new materia, tough end-game bosses and hidden extras. I'd also love to see certain scenes in up-to-date graphics. Like


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The fight with Rufus on the Shinra HQ, and Sapphire WEAPON's attack on Junon.

[deceptacon]

i'm not sure. . i'd definitely BUY it if it happened, but i think the feel of playing good ol' ffvii would be. . off ?
i duno, maybe it would rule :)

[Sidderz]

I think 'some parts would be equal or better, some worse.'

There's no way it could be completely better I think, except maybe if Cait Sith was changed. ;P

[Allen Walker]

If they made it, it will either make or break the original.

I think Square is willing to take the risk.

[Whiplash]

It's a good idea for making money. As for the quality, it would probably be about the same (except in terms of graphics) as the original, if not better, but regardless there will always be people for whom it would never be good enough (e.g., Sephiroth's pants aren't tight enough for them, etc., etc.). These people are the thought-siblings of those who say that no musician should cover a song by The Beatles.

[Dark Vincent]

I think a FFVII Remake would be a great idea. Recently I have met some Compilations of FFVII fans who have never had the chance of playing the original one, just its sequels, prequels and read the original's story on the wiki. That would be a great chance for these new fans to experience the original story, and a great chance for us veterans to replay the original one, now properly tied up with its prequels/sequels' contents and way better graphics/sound.
The original holds a special place in my heart as my first FF (I used to play RPGs on Genesis only, such as the old Phantasy Stars), but even as a fan I have to admit it has its problems and a remake would be a fair way of addressing those.

All in all, I don't see a remake coming out anytime soon, as the main heads behind the Compilations and the original FF7 itself that still belong to SE are too busy with Fabula Nova Crystallis and other projects, which I don't mind at all ;)

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More remake threads? :(

[Whiplash]

Like slasher film villains they always seem to come back, no matter how much you kill them.

[Desi]

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The fight with Rufus on the Shinra HQ, and Sapphire WEAPON's attack on Junon.The game is ten years old. Fuck people worried about spoilers.

[estella]

anyhow, I think a remake would be unbearable because I've already seen enough of Aeris to last me a lifetime, thank you very much. XD
Which is kinda ironic, since I would give anything to see more of Cloud.

so now I understand what was meant by the coexistence of Ying and Yang.

[Naunen]

Absolutely not. Any more better and the old fanbase will crumble paving a way for those unknowing of the original game to parade through without once knowing the ancient brilliance that firstly gave birth to almost sheer perfection; the birth of a new god. We all know that a lot of us don't like FFVII anymore because of the disgusting over-obsessive fandom (like Sephiroth with a fro or Cloud getting his ass beat by a Mary Sue).

[Dark Vincent]

(like Sephiroth with afro...).Rofl I swear I read it that way and immediately pictured the image >_>

Meh I could careless about the fanbase. I'm one of the oldschool FF7 fans, I think the game is good but not that much by today's standards. In fact I think I'll enjoy Crisis Core more lol And the fans can say whatever they want, it won't take away my pleasure of playing the game XP

[deceptacon]

Recently I have met some Compilations of FFVII fans who have never had the chance of playing the original one, just its sequels, prequels and read the original's story on the wiki.


you can still buy the game on ebay, and local flea markets i'm sure that sell used games.
how can you be a fan of a game you've never played ? bullshite, i say

[Alice]

I believe if they did remake FFVII, parts of the game would be equal or better, some worse. Better because of graphics, worse because it wouldn't compare to the orginal game. The feelings we had when we first played FFVII could never be the same with a remake.

Then again, I could be wrong. Maybe if they put a lot into it, it could be just as great as the PSone version. Of course, why would they put a lot into an old game when they could be making a new game instead? I really hope that one day, FFVII gets remade but to an extent that would have SquareEnix focus purely on remaking it the same as the original.

[Whiplash]

I'd be interested in finding out if they remade it, would they also rewrite the script? I haven't played any of the Nintendo FF remakes, what did they do with them besides update the graphics?

Because really, if the're not changing the script or the characters are they really changing the game enough that it 'wouldn't feel the same' or 'couldn't compare'? Unless someone's concerned that, like seeing a movie after reading a book, their projections onto the simple, stiff polygon figures of emotional displays would be vastly superior to the more highly detailed renderings that would be available for a PS3 remake and said remake would only ruin them (damn bookfilms, ruin my previous imaginings whilst simulataneously destroying my ability to create new ones, will you?). Will the screen actually moving in a cut scene condemn the game to destruction by Meteor? Apart from the risk of poor voice acting and having your own embellishments of the game supplemented by SE's, what exactly do those who voted that it would be worse feel would make it so? That adding a sense of graphical realism to the game would simply highlight any of the more ridiculous aspects of it?


Dear God I'm long-winded. And worse, I poked the bear while I was being long-winded.


Bury me in a nice place.

[Dark Vincent]

you can still buy the game on ebay, and local flea markets i'm sure that sell used games.
how can you be a fan of a game you've never played ? bullshite, i sayThey are fans of the Compilations :P They have played CC, DoC, watched AC and Last Order...

EDIT: Oh yeah, and the prices for FF7 on E-bay are outrageous. If my original copy's box wasn't damaged I would actually sell it there lol

EDIT2: Whip, speaking of FF3 remake besides updating the graphics I heard they tweaked around the jobs for a better balance/system and changed the script a bit (then again, FF3's original script was crap lol)

[deceptacon]

get the greatest hits box :cookie:

[Ringlets]

If it was in Advent Children graphics (cant use AC anymore thanks to assassins creed), then it would be awesome. Some of the environments that seemed bland could be mindblowing in the new one, such as the Coral Desert or inside the Lifestream.

[Dark Vincent]

If it was in Advent Children graphics (cant use AC anymore thanks to assassins creed), then it would be awesome. Some of the environments that seemed bland could be mindblowing in the new one, such as the Coral Desert or inside the Lifestream.
And those already were awesome, would be even better. Northern Crater/Promised Land comes to my mind (the first time I climbed the Great Glacier.. jesus man, biggest boner I have ever had over a game)

[Ringlets]

jesus man, biggest boner I have ever had over a game)

Uncomfortable...

Also the combat would be better with AC graphics. I mean, the characters were more detailed for a 30 one-hit ko-athon than they were for the entire walking around outside combat.

[Dark Vincent]

They could remove random encounters on a remake too.

God I hate random encounters.

[Ringlets]

In 12 (which i havent played) cant you see the enemies your about to fight with? I mean, they could do that on VII, only fit the way you meet them in with the setting, like Shinra guards in the first reactor running to find you, whereas in places like the Northern Crater caves, all the creatures sort of jump out of shadowed alcoves or whatever.

[Dark Vincent]

In 12 (which i havent played) cant you see the enemies your about to fight with? I mean, they could do that on VII, only fit the way you meet them in with the setting, like Shinra guards in the first reactor running to find you, whereas in places like the Northern Crater caves, all the creatures sort of jump out of shadowed alcoves or whatever.Yeah they got rid of random encounters since FFXI actually. 12 uses a very similar battle system to that of XI actually. But I'm always afraid of SE stepping back when working on remakes

[Alice]

Yeah they got rid of random encounters since FFXI actually. 12 uses a very similar battle system to that of XI actually. But I'm always afraid of SE stepping back when working on remakes

I noticed that as well about the very similar battle systems between FFXI and FFXII. I play both and have noticed many other things about the two games that are similar...but of course...I can't think of them at the moment. :rolleyes:

As for the remake of FFVII having random battles, I don't think it would be so bad. However, it would be nice to actually see a change like that in FFVII.

[chuk bur]

a new ff7? i think the idea is kool but the original would still probably be better.

[BlueOni]

If you ask me, if they were to do away with random encounters they'd have to make big changes to the battle system, possibly making it more of a action-RPG. That's the kind of changes a classic game is well-off without.

[Allen Walker]

One of the reasons I hated 12 was because it went away from originality with a new battle system. I'll be really mad if that system was put into a possible FF7 remake.

[Interficio Nocte]

One of the reasons I hated 12 was because it went away from originality with a new battle system. I'll be really mad if that system was put into a possible FF7 remake.

If they do do a remake, betcha they will use the newer battle system.

[Blu Ray Disc]

I wouldn't mind if they used the old battle system, as long as the graphics looked nice. I actually wouldn't care if they remade it for the PS2 if not the PS3.

[Whiplash]

I'd like a remake to be identical except for graphics seeing as the only reason I'd endorse a remake would be if it gave people who have never played the game before a chance to now. Games like FFI, II, etc are hard to come by (legally and en mass) as is a working NES, so I didn't mind those games being remade.

[SinirothXIII]

I'd like a remake to be identical except for graphics seeing as the only reason I'd endorse a remake would be if it gave people who have never played the game before a chance to now. Games like FFI, II, etc are hard to come by (legally and en mass) as is a working NES, so I didn't mind those games being remade.

That was my stance on it: I would love a remake as long as they didn't change anything around except for presentation and graphics. But then I got to thinking, I still want them to keep it the same if they do it, but now I actually like the idea of them adding some things. I mean, extra optional bosses, new materia, etc., like the OP mentioned, would be very cool things to add since it wouldn't change the story or anything, but just enhance the experience even further beyond the graphics.

[BlueOni]

They could also use it as a means to explain some other aspects of the story and to tie up loose ends. Maybe develop some of the characters further (Palmer for example was a caricature, as were other Shinra executives). I wouldn't mind a bit of such initiative as long as the core was still there.

[SinirothXIII]

They could also use it as a means to explain some other aspects of the story and to tie up loose ends. Maybe develop some of the characters further (Palmer for example was a caricature, as were other Shinra executives). I wouldn't mind a bit of such initiative as long as the core was still there.

I think that'd be nice additions as well.

[Hakimichi]

new materia would be nice.
game play maybe just with a little more option.
and please don't make it like XII.
I don't like the gambit system
it just too automatic that some time the only thing you are using is the analog just to move around.
sometime cause me to fall asleep. zzzz

[Dark Remnant]

I don't know if it'll turn out as good as the original or not but I'm all for SE remaking it because I've never played the original and I doubt I ever will because the graphics will put me off big time.

[Allen Walker]

I don't know if it'll turn out as good as the original or not but I'm all for SE remaking it because I've never played the original and I doubt I ever will because the graphics will put me off big time.

Its bad to judge games by its graphics :/

[Dark Remnant]

Oh I'm not judging it; I know it has an awesome storyline and very memorable characters, I just find it hard to play anything 5th generation without getting frustrated after a while at the blocky graphics - they're a big put-off for me.

[Shadow Clone]

their not that bad.

[Whiplash]

...not until you play VIII anyway.

[Dark Vincent]

I prefered FFVIII's graphics over FFVII and FFIX anyday :|

[Thimien]

See i love FF7 as it is now... i voted for 3rd option, since they would have to be very carefull when touching that game, its amazing as it is..
to make it complete 3d would be cool...but hell im scared they would ruin it hehe

[BlankChocobo]

I wouldn't mind a change to the battle system, but I really didn't like FFXII's system so much. ._. The graphics would make me really happy, though. At the same time, I have never been bothered by the random encounters. As long as the loading screens don't take forever, I'm fine with those too. ^_^

I don't see why they couldn't make a remake much better than the original~ I guess it all depends on how they go about it, to me.

[xThexNewxPrincex]

I like how the original one is..but I think a remake would be nice. Graphics mean a lot to many people, so I think the game would sell well if they made the graphics way better.

I have no clue what they should do about the battle system and storyline. But I think if they left the battle system, the game will do just as fine if they changed it.

[BlueOni]

I prefered FFVIII's graphics over FFVII and FFIX anyday :|

Agreed, I felt FFIX was actually a downgrade in graphics after VIII.

[chuk bur]

well all i kno is that if they do remake final fantasy VII, i hope they dont change the story. i like the story but the graphics were a bit off. i mean cmon square hands. and IX has a bit better graphics than VIII. the characters are a bit bigger and a bit more animated.

[Exodus]

and IX has a bit better graphics than VIII. the characters are a bit bigger and a bit more animated.

I always saw FFVIII's graphics superior to IX's. Both in-game and FMV. FFVIII characters and everything looked more realistic that IX's, imo.

[chuk bur]

i really dont think they were pointing to realistic in IX i think they were jes wanting it to be that way cause of the story itself. kinda plays along but oh well. no need to fight over a game...

[BlueOni]

FFVIII's FMVs are stunning to this day, for IX, well, something feels off.

[Final]

I would love to see a remake,,, because I love the story and yeah FF VII =D

[DIONYZA]

I was worried a couple years ago due to the last bad additions, but Crisis Core was an incredible game. Hopefully they will add a few more to the compilation to practice the voice actors for the remake.

[angelvalentine]

The game is ten years old. Fuck people worried about spoilers.




HA.
Agreed.



I think a remake would be a smart way to make money, but if they do it wrong...ahh.
I'd buy it.
Cloud in HD?
HELLZ.
YES.

[SirBaron]

I think the story would feel more alive in a remake with AC'ish graphics and voices.

And besides, releasing a FFVII remake with a lot of effort behind it would make SE filthy rich.

[Final]

^ Yup.. I also think more would play/buy it, because of the great graphic!!! Of course :D

[chuk bur]

WOOO MOTHA* CLOUD IN HD F*IN BADA*

[Vanisher]

a remake with voices would be really great.

[chuk bur]

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[Whiplash]

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Care to elaborate?

[The Whaler]

In chuck bur language it means "Easy gil"
:aldo:

I do think it would be a good idea to remake the game, just graphics wise but that's it, not to much change to the plot. Hopefully none.....

[The Chocobo Sage]

I think it is a fantastic idea. Not only because of the amount of money Square will pocket (i.e. Shit loads) but because the game deserves one. Hell III got a proper remake!

as to what they should do with it -
I reckon they could give it a massive graphical overhaul, to the point where AC wouldn't be too far a conclusion to think of Advent Children


Make the world map much bigger and more more to scale - increasing the usage of chocobos! Imagine riding up to a massive version of Midgar! OMG!


Because the world map would be bigger they could add more places of interest, towns, and side quests (although nothing that would change the story of course)
I love

the materia system, don't want that changed at all - however they could take out random battles for a XII esque visable enemy system. But not gambits. Fuck gambits.

[Shadow Clone]

I think it is a fantastic idea. Not only because of the amount of money Square will pocket (i.e. Shit loads) but because the game deserves one. Hell III got a proper remake!

as to what they should do with it -
I reckon they could give it a massive graphical overhaul, to the point where AC wouldn't be too far a conclusion to think of Advent Children


Make the world map much bigger and more more to scale - increasing the usage of chocobos! Imagine riding up to a massive version of Midgar! OMG!


Because the world map would be bigger they could add more places of interest, towns, and side quests (although nothing that would change the story of course)
I love

the materia system, don't want that changed at all - however they could take out random battles for a XII esque visable enemy system. But not gambits. Fuck gambits.

i totaly agree with that, i luv the materia system and the story. oh and about golden surcer place needs to be made a lot better and enjoyable. is u where in midgar i think the bike needs to be used, save chocobos for the world map as to save them from poplution from midgar lol

[chuk bur]

eh the materia system is pretty good but needs a bit of updates. a faster system would do. same materia and all but sumthin like a mix of 10 and 12.

[AgentMasterson]

It seems that I am one of the few that doesn't want a remake. I think it is too late now for a remake. Square Enix should focus on new Final Fantasy games and NOT remaking old ones. Final Fantasy VII is my favorite game in the series so I wouldn't want to see a poorly made remake of it.

[TBG07]

It seems that I am one of the few that doesn't want a remake. I think it is too late now for a remake. Square Enix should focus on new Final Fantasy games and NOT remaking old ones. Final Fantasy VII is my favorite game in the series so I wouldn't want to see a poorly made remake of it.

It's never too late for a remake ;). Besides, if the remake will suck, we'll still have the original to play. If you look at it that way, it can only get better.

A good example of a great remake: Resident Evil for the Nintendo GameCube (2002), which is a remake of the PSX original of 1996. Same story, same characters, same surroundings but with better graphics, better sound and some additional content.

Imagine that... FFVII in PS3 graphics, voice acting and some new stuff like extra mini games, side quests, maybe even characters and places to visit.

[Bun]

I know I'd like to see a remake, but I'm concerned that they would change some things that would really take away from the game. Like now that the compilation has voice acting, maybe they would do the same thing and take away those little blue talk boxes; not to mention the fact that the English voice acting blew it out the ass... Also, how some important aspects of the plot was changed in Last Order, Before Crisis; and AC and DoC were nothing but unnecessary crap to feed to the rapid fans who just want more. I'm afraid they'd change things for the worse and end up ruining the remake instead of making it better.

[TBG07]

Maybe... but on the other hand.. maybe NOT. I think if SE really wanted to, they could make an excellent remake of FFVII. The voice acting in FF Crisis Core and FF XII (12) is good, so why shouldn't it be possible in the remake? And the FFVII experience isn't about blue talk boxes... you could change the color if you wanted to.

[Bun]

English Crisis Core was bad because they basically used the same characters from Advent Children. However, I'll agree that 12 was inarguably superior when it came to their voice acting. It still intrigues me why they didn't bother to find people like that to do a good job on one of their most popular games (and now Compilation), but it's over and done with now. All I can do is bitch and moan about it.

What I meant by the blue talk boxes was that while FF7 paved the way in terms of graphics, plot and other aspects, it still embraced the classic feel. I don't want that to change now after what I've heard of the English side--it's like they didn't even try with this one. I'd go into more of why I feel that way but I end up going off on a tangent.

Anyway, I do believe they're capable of keeping the game up to standards, but there are some things that worry me that I think would end up being changed for the worse.

[Elyse]

A remake would equal huge sales for SE and Sony. They should add more things/side quests to it.

[Cilvia]

lol, whatever.
if it will come out, all will buy it :D
why discuss xD

[Brave27heart]

They will remake it. The money they can make from it will justify it in their eyes. Right now though i dont trust them not to mess it up. Classics should be left alone.

[The Whaler]

lol, whatever.
if it will come out, all will buy it :D
why discuss xD
That's like saying "Final Fantasy XIII will come out and people will by it so why bother talking about it?"

:cookie:

But there are alot of remakes coming out here pretty soon, so I really would'nt be surprised

[Brave27heart]

The big issues for me are style and combat. Would they nail the styling and feel of the game if it looks prettier? The PS3 technical demo they did made some slight changes to the original opening that just didnt feel right, or just werent as good as the original. As for the combat, would they be brave enough to stick with the turn based ATB system or would we get something like FFXII or Crisis Core? For me that'd ruin it.

[Élan]

Of course I'd like a remake, but there are those little things that worry me. I don't doubt that the graphics will be anything less than spectacular, but I worry about the voice acting. If they don't get it right during those crucial scenes, the feel of the game will be completely different than the original. The people who have never played FFVII before won't get the same experience the rest of us did. I know it's a hard to get that same feeling...but it is called a remake.

But I'd rather get a remake than no remake at all.

Honeybee Inn. :aldo:

[Hae Jung Shin]

Of course I'd like a remake, but there are those little things that worry me. I don't doubt that the graphics will be anything less than spectacular, but I worry about the voice acting. If they don't get it right during those crucial scenes, the feel of the game will be completely different than the original. The people who have never played FFVII before won't get the same experience the rest of us did. I know it's a hard to get that same feeling...but it is called a remake.

But I'd rather get a remake than no remake at all.

Honeybee Inn. :aldo:
hmm i was sceptical so far, but now that you mentioned honeybee inn...
seriously though I wouldn't want a remake, it's perfect as it is, just leave the game alone will ya.

[Darling Heartilly]

I think most of it'd be better, some not so much. As much as I'd hate to admit it I'm not sure how they'd realistically have Cloud crossdress convincingly. Of course if they did then the rest of the game could be a pile of poo as far as I'm concerned, I'd still love it! :D

And even if the eventual remake's crap, the original's still there, untouched.

[foXhound494]

A remake would be nice but I don't think they could ever match the quality of the original.

[Haruka no Bachi]

Hello Guys :)

I think a remake would be really cool, and some moments will be fantastic in better graphic.

But... I really hope that the remake will be 1:1. If they cut some scence or add some strange "new scence" this would be horrible.
[For examle the Tomb Raider Remake ~ Anniversairy... this is (in my opinion) a bad remake]

I can think of moments, the graphic will be really loly :D
For example... Cloud in a dress *blush* xD

Haruka