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Kitmitsu
Jan 26 2008, 05:53 AM
In the translations of the recent Famitsu scans, they say that summons appear in a "digital form". I started thinking, "what the hell does that mean?" and then I thought maybe magic isn't actually involved in this game?

Looking at the brief amount of footage we've seen of the battle system, there isn't an MP meter, only an ATB meter. Does this mean they use their technology instead of magic to do a fire attacks for example?

What do you guys think?

BlankChocobo
Jan 26 2008, 06:39 AM
In the translations of the recent Famitsu scans, they say that summons appear in a "digital form". I started thinking, "what the hell does that mean?" and then I thought maybe magic isn't actually involved in this game?

Looking at the brief amount of footage we've seen of the battle system, there isn't an MP meter, only an ATB meter. Does this mean they use their technology instead of magic to do a fire attacks for example?

What do you guys think?


Famitsuu seems to think summoning is item-based~

I think there must be some form of magic, or else why would Lightning be so special? If it was purely technology, then I'd think that other people would have her stuff too, unless the Crystal gave it only to her. @_@ Besides, what kind of Fantasy is Final Fantasy without fantasy elements? XD

Desi
Jan 26 2008, 06:47 AM
Xenosaga used nano-machines for the "magic" quite a lot.

Give me a moment before I come up with other examples.

Dream Machine
Jan 26 2008, 10:05 PM
Di Di Di
Digimon Digital Monsters
Digimon are the Champions

Digimon Digital Monsters
Digimon are the Champions

Change (Action) into Digital Champions to save the Digital World...


I'm sorry but as soon as I read that, all I can think of is that theme tune. Anywho I remember from an interview ages ago they mentioned that technology and magic got so advanced they fused or something.

My theory is that both the Pulse and the Coccoon crystal make summons, but Coccoons are slightly machine-based (like Shiva) whereas Pulse's are more natural, like how Carbuncle appears.

YouTube - Digimon Season 1 theme song

Lol, anyway.

Sidderz
Jan 26 2008, 11:09 PM
Digital Monstarrz. :cookie:

Desi
Jan 27 2008, 03:52 AM
My theory is that both the Pulse and the Coccoon crystal make summons, but Coccoons are slightly machine-based (like Shiva) whereas Pulse's are more natural, like how Carbuncle appears.

YouTube - Digimon Season 1 theme song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj0-hpO7a0Y)

Lol, anyway.
First the movie version of that song was awesome.

Carbuncle looks like a freaking jester! They aren't natural. Demons are what they are.

Dream Machine
Jan 28 2008, 01:25 AM
Natural in the sense they don't turn into helicoptors or whatever :lol:

Blu Ray Disc
Jan 28 2008, 03:38 AM
You know how that Carbuncle summon came out of a disk. Think of that for a second. Aren't disks, digital?
and yeah, there probably won't be any MP involved, everything that Lightning performed was executed using the ATB bar.

S-r-ex
Jan 28 2008, 04:22 PM
Laserdisk was a CD the size of an LP and it was analog!

If they'redigital, somebody must have made them, designed them, modelled them, programmed them, given them textures yadda-yadda-yadda, much like real life, actually. But in the games story, who made them? Nobematsu Uebuo?

Dream Machine
Jan 28 2008, 04:23 PM
Hahaha, I forgot about the disc. Still, maybe my theory about the Pulse Summons/Not Motorbike thing still works?

I'm willing to bet that a Crystal made them.

TBG07
Mar 10 2008, 05:39 PM
Maybe the summons are sort of "digital" projections....kind of hollograms. Ever seen Star Trek Next Generation or Voyager? The projections on the "Hollodeck" could actually touch you (and kill you if the safety was turned off).

VeraAlexander
Jun 18 2008, 06:54 AM
Well aren't those dog like monsters we see in the trailer digital i mean they just apear right and didn't the crystals create cocoon and make things for the people like didn't they make the technology and it is even said that they create other LIVING creatures for the people

SludgeNuggets
Jun 18 2008, 07:19 AM
I thought that when they spoke of how the summon avatars would be in "digital form," they were simply referring to the notion that they could be shifted into various shapes/forms and manipulated while maintaining their essence (so to speak) - like Shiva in that motorcycle-looking form (or whatever that was) in one of the Famitsu scans we saw.

That's just what I took away from that statement, but I'm absolutely awful with speculation so don't mind me.

VeraAlexander
Jun 18 2008, 08:24 AM
I kind of agree with you Sludge that seems to make sense to me to.

wohdin
Jun 18 2008, 06:49 PM
13 is supposedly set in the distant future - far more distant than any before, correct? Well, it would be something quite logical to think that the scientific or whatever community of this time period has "captured" what was once known as magic in a digital form. I like the idea, personally, even if it sounds aboriginal. The magic system in 8 was about as non-majickal as one couls muster without it just being totally ridiculous. If the society of 13 harbors the powers of magic digitally, it would mean a greatly simplified society, but overall it would seem unnatural. Which, to me, seems proper by this point for FF.

Utilizing data instead of the supernatural forces to conjure powerful forces that humans could not possibly posess otherwise - it's actually something that sounds plausible. Albeit in the VERY distant future. It fits the setting of 13 perfectly.

SludgeNuggets
Jun 18 2008, 10:07 PM
13 is supposedly set in the distant future - far more distant than any before, correct? Well, it would be something quite logical to think that the scientific or whatever community of this time period has "captured" what was once known as magic in a digital form. I like the idea, personally, even if it sounds aboriginal. The magic system in 8 was about as non-majickal as one couls muster without it just being totally ridiculous. If the society of 13 harbors the powers of magic digitally, it would mean a greatly simplified society, but overall it would seem unnatural. Which, to me, seems proper by this point for FF.

Utilizing data instead of the supernatural forces to conjure powerful forces that humans could not possibly posess otherwise - it's actually something that sounds plausible. Albeit in the VERY distant future. It fits the setting of 13 perfectly.

That.

Yeah, I like what he said. That would give it a more...realistic feel. If nothing else, it certainly would set it apart from 95% of most JRPGs we've seen in the past. :nod:

Presto
Jun 20 2008, 09:34 PM
I think having summons in a digital form is a neat and very cool idea. I really want to see how they work in the game. Knowing SE, though, it will take forever before we see these summons in action on the battlefield. I'm sure the wait will be worth it, though. :D

Desi
Jun 21 2008, 04:39 PM
They could also jack into robot girls boobies and clean out the excess data in their mindspace ala Ar Tonelico.

N O C T E
Jun 21 2008, 05:53 PM
I think some of you may be getting too excited over this. :aldo:

IMO, they will be machine versions of XII's summons. They might help you move faster or something, but could possibly remove your party (if you have one), and just make them a waste of time.

Just my opinion though. I mean, summons are supposed to be powerful, and in XII, they were shit. Hopefully they do get it right for XIII.

xEnergie
Jun 24 2008, 05:53 AM
Totally off topic but man... that digimon clip really brought back memories of caturday morning cartoons haha :P