View Full Version : Lightning doesn't cry and has Has muscular legs .
sumkhw
Feb 06 2008, 10:49 AM
The source from Forever Fantasy (http://forever-fantasy.net/)
Famitsu interviews Tetsuya Nomura , And he said that Lightning Has muscular legs, she isn't sweet and doesn't cry.
What do you think???
As for me :
I like Lightning personality more than before, cause I don't want to see those kinds of weakness in the females characters such as :- yuna and Aireth I feel bored with these types don't you think?? Lightning has a strong body and strong personality that doesn't mean she lacks emotional depth or she lacks feminine aspects. As for me I think the people who don't cry have more interesting emotional that kept inside them.
Thimien
Feb 06 2008, 11:03 AM
i agree i guess, i like strong weman :P
Whiplash
Feb 06 2008, 11:54 AM
She has muscular legs? The fanboys must be all a-flutter :kira:
Personally I'd have preferred him to mention a character name.
Shuyu
Feb 06 2008, 11:58 AM
She could snap your neck with her thighs. ... I assume so, anyway.
A friend of mine said "I like to think Squeenix is building up our belief that Lightning is tough-as-nails, so they can totally shock us during the game when something tragic happens ... Something tragic enough to make Lightning cry."
... I have to say, I think the same. Because Squeenix is mean and likes to do things that make me cry.
The fanboys must be all a-flutterYes, the fanboys. ... And me. http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/6336/shiftyxp5.gif
Fenristh
Feb 06 2008, 11:59 AM
Her legs don't look muscular to me. o_O Probably a bad translation.
Im pretty sure I've heard all this before, so I'm not going to post it.
Edit: Yep, found the interview about Versus.
"-- How is the development of Versus XIII going?
Nomura: Everyone is very excited over this so I think we can make something good out of this. Part of our team has been together since the FF7 days but since we've spent such a long time working on KH, a lot of spirit is going into the development of a long-awaited FF for us.
-- What kind of FF will it turn out to be like?
Nomura: The action elements will be high in the game but instead of defeating the enemies from an audience's view, I want to give people the taste of actually being part of that world. The assignment here is whether we can build an FF with the suspense and thrill of Third-Person-Shooting or not. In that sense, the game will be a slightly different type of FF.
Nothing much new. But then there's another Nomura interview in the Dengeki PS extra booklet called "Relay" and, although the interview focused more on merchandising, it has some interesting news in it.
- Apparently Squenix wants to figure-ize more characters designed by Nomura but Nomura will instead be supervising more on accessories and apparel-related merchandises. He will probably make some original designs, too.
- It's confimed that Subarashiki Kono Sekai will have some action figures. Apparently there's a photo of a 15-cm-tall Neku and Shiki. No release date so far, though. (Apparently there's also a new figure for the PS version of Cloud)
- Still no plans of selling the Lightning figure since the game is still under development and there might be some alterations to her design. For now, the figure is only for show in events.
- No plans for a figure of Versus XIII main character too because the game is still under development and his design is still incomplete. However, they might think something apparel-wise.
- Everything shown of Versus XIII so far are still in temporary state. Nomura wants to do something new but it'll take some time to finish so the main character will have to keep wearing his 'temporary clothes' for awhile for now. Currently, Nomura's steadily finishing the designs of the other party members in the game so he should be able to show them someday. (hopefully soon)"
Amleya
Feb 06 2008, 12:01 PM
Badass :aldo: Finally a really strong woman. :thumbsup: As if we couldn't tell from looking at her... >.>
Nagase
Feb 06 2008, 12:39 PM
i agree i guess, i like strong weman :P
weman
AH....Ah...AHHHHHHHH :nag:
Amleya
Feb 06 2008, 12:41 PM
AH....Ah...AHHHHHHHH :nag:
:nag: :nag: :nag:
>.>; Is it the word Weman?? xD
deceptacon
Feb 06 2008, 02:34 PM
WO-MAN or WO-MEN
not WE-MEN or WE-MAN
Final
Feb 06 2008, 03:59 PM
Yeah, it's WO- all the way!!!! Anyway, I think it's cool with a bad-ass female char. But I just hope that she'll have some emotions, so it's not going to be a ''shalow'' figure. But I'm sure that's not gonna happend.
S-r-ex
Feb 06 2008, 04:03 PM
She'll be the most masculine lead FF-character ever :shifty:
Cathryn
Feb 06 2008, 04:03 PM
WEMAN SOUNDS LIKE A GERMAN SAUSAGE :cathryn:
Ahh, i refuse to listen to these translations D;
Only the muscular leg part, considering they look like frube tubes and not actual muscle.
Mavet
Feb 06 2008, 05:41 PM
About the spoiler above:
- No plans for a figure of Versus XIII main character too because the game is still under development and his design is still incomplete. However, they might think something apparel-wise.
- Everything shown of Versus XIII so far are still in temporary state. Nomura wants to do something new but it'll take some time to finish so the main character will have to keep wearing his 'temporary clothes' for awhile for now. Currently, Nomura's steadily finishing the designs of the other party members in the game so he should be able to show them someday. (hopefully soon)"WHAT?! I actually really like the clothes hes wearing right now! I dont want them to give him more useless buckler decorations like Nomura likes to stick on them!
And does that mean the FFVXIII will have a party to play with?
Eh, Muscular legs dont really do it to me... Although alot of hot surfer chicks here have muscular legs....
Fenristh
Feb 06 2008, 05:43 PM
Her legs aren't muscular at all. Bad translation I think.
Blankchocobo said she'd give it a go after class. :p
Misschoco
Feb 06 2008, 07:19 PM
Only the muscular leg part, considering they look like frube tubes and not actual muscle.
subtle muscles??-bleh they looked toned not actually muscular-bad translations most likely
Desi
Feb 06 2008, 10:06 PM
I like Lightning personality more than before, cause I don't want to see those kinds of weakness in the females characters such as :- yuna and Aireth I feel bored with these types don't you think?? Lightning has a strong body and strong personality that doesn't mean she lacks emotional depth or she lacks feminine aspects. As for me I think the people who don't cry have more interesting emotional that kept inside them.What is that supposed to mean? Yuna and Aeris are frail bodied yet are strong minded. If you mean you also want strong bodied and strong minded aka Ashe ok, but I don't think that is what you meant. More like you take them as idiot damsels which they aren't those are called Rena, Rinoa, Garnet.
My closing note. Lightning is not muscular she lacks the Chun-li thighs. Those delicious thunder thighs.
Hextan
Feb 06 2008, 10:08 PM
I would say the one with muscular legs is the prince as he is the only one as of yet to snap someones neck with their legs. I actually thought that action was pretty feminine but him doing it looked slightly more masculine. I think if the "Lightning doesn't cry thing is true" then yes they are definitely going to do something to make her cry i think.
Reviarth
Feb 07 2008, 01:09 AM
Badass :aldo: Finally a really strong woman. :thumbsup: As if we couldn't tell from looking at her... >.>
Yeah that is awesome but there are alot of strong women in FF series also like Tifa,Ashe,Fran,Quistos,well...thats all I can think of right now ^^; oh and Ultimecia heh.
Naunen
Feb 07 2008, 01:59 AM
I would say the one with muscular legs is the prince as he is the only one as of yet to snap someones neck with their legs. I actually thought that action was pretty feminine but him doing it looked slightly more masculine. I think if the "Lightning doesn't cry thing is true" then yes they are definitely going to do something to make her cry i think.
----Strong legs = sexy asskicking moves. :cunning:
BlankChocobo
Feb 07 2008, 02:55 AM
*eats her scratch pad* I hate Nomura. I love him, but I hate him so much. ; ; Nomura, please learn to speak in full sentences.
I am trying to get the Versus portion to cooperate and it's not. =/ Here's the (tentative) translation for FFXIII's portion. I totally reserve the right to edit screw-ups without warning. >____>; Mine and Maiki's translations are different, and I don't know why...
- lines are the interviewer's:
-Lightning's muscles and such make an impression, don't they? She is muscular, but attractive.
Nomura: In drawing Lightning, the most essential thing was that she is a "cool character." You can't have a cool character without sex appeal.
-What kind of "cool" is she?
Nomura: Serious, and unforgiving, yeah, she is a relentless character, isn't she? Maybe she is harsh on herself too, but she is not the type to coddle people. When she meets other people, she's not the kind who changes according to them, but instead you can see that she is a kind of individualistic person who gives off the impression of someone who unswervingly follows the guidelines inside of herself.
-Was that harshness more than was intended in the design?
Nomura: I was asked to make her strong and beautiful, but when I read the scenario, I thought "Is that all?" They were saying that she is a soldier, and her personality was certainly of one. She is not a "whiner." Actually, before we decided on the type we have for her now, there were a variety of different Lightnings. There were some by other staff members, too, and in the beginning, she didn't have the same image as she does now.
-Like what, for example?
Nomura: She was Asian. The final Lightning is considerably more chiseled. Her eyes are more deeply set in than a typical heroine. Also, her cheekbones are more prominent than other female characters. In these ways, Lightning's design changed considerably. Other things are hidden, so you can't tell, but her legs are lean and her abdominal muscles are defined. Toriyama was particular about her having an athlete's body. However, if the heroine was too "macho," it would be difficult for players to associate emotionally with her, and so while serving the director's intentions for her, I tried to make her a bit sweet. That intent appears in things like her hairstyle and hair color.
Fenristh
Feb 07 2008, 03:05 AM
Thank you very much, blank. :D
http://finalfantasyversusxiii.net/2008/02/06/nomura-versus-guy-s-name-coming-soon-and-you-might-not-like-him.html
BlankChocobo
Feb 07 2008, 03:07 AM
Thank you very much, blank. :D
http://finalfantasyversusxiii.net/2008/02/06/nomura-versus-guy-s-name-coming-soon-and-you-might-not-like-him.html
Imma bite your head off, Dante. I told you not to post that >_________<
Fenristh
Feb 07 2008, 03:08 AM
ROB SAID IT WAS OKAY COS YOU POSTED THAT SO FAR IM SORRY `
removed ~
BlankChocobo
Feb 07 2008, 03:10 AM
ROB SAID IT WAS OKAY COS YOU POSTED THAT SO FAR IM SORRY `
Not the Versus stuuuuuuff >___< I haven't even finished half that section! And the character isn't "out of bounds" ~_~ I'm still working on that part...
EDIT: Thank you =________= Today is so not my rational, happy day.
Whiplash
Feb 07 2008, 03:43 AM
Abs? Well they're no fun.
Maiya Saiyado
Feb 07 2008, 04:17 AM
Ohhhhh. See? This is very detailed. I like it =] And whoa, Lightning was Asian? What the crap? xD I have a hard time seeing her as an asian. Ah well, I wonder what other designs they had. Haha, rational and happy day? Hmmm... Feel better soon, Blank. Though, I think I already had enough say with that. Anyway, that was a really nice translation. xD Nomura is awesome. I guess Nomura is sort of stereotypical, trying to soften her with her hair color and all o_o.
OHH~EMM~GEE
Feb 07 2008, 04:28 AM
Oh thanks for the info!! It's a good thing she's a different type of heroine.... but I don't think her legs are muscular :blink: and I cant imagine her looking asian...
BlankChocobo
Feb 07 2008, 04:41 AM
Ohhhhh. See? This is very detailed. I like it =] And whoa, Lightning was Asian? What the crap? xD I have a hard time seeing her as an asian. Ah well, I wonder what other designs they had. Haha, rational and happy day? Hmmm... Feel better soon, Blank. Though, I think I already had enough say with that. Anyway, that was a really nice translation. xD Nomura is awesome. I guess Nomura is sort of stereotypical, trying to soften her with her hair color and all o_o.
I think probably just some of the Lightnings were Asian, since he was just describing the previous ones. Next to American heronies, she still looks Asian to me, just with pink-dyed hair. @_@
Naunen
Feb 07 2008, 05:09 AM
Now that's a sexy translation.
Desi
Feb 07 2008, 05:16 AM
Nomura still says Rinoa is European so I know he is not to be trusted. Lightning is Puerto Rican.
Shuyu
Feb 07 2008, 08:41 AM
So, she won't snap your neck with her thighs. She'll lay you across her stomach and do LITERAL crunches... Of your tiny, weak bones.
I try to imagine Asian-Lightning... And my brain explodes. Such a thing... It was never meant to happen...
Amleya
Feb 07 2008, 01:07 PM
I think probably just some of the Lightnings were Asian, since he was just describing the previous ones. Next to American heronies, she still looks Asian to me, just with pink-dyed hair. @_@
I agree with you whole heartedly. :D >.> Why are we talking about frail bodies and stuff??
TO ME (<----yes to ME, so shut it) she seems stronger than Tifa and other women Reviarth mentioned and I'm not talking about just will. *gets shot by Tifa fans*
pupucachi
Feb 07 2008, 03:17 PM
Lighting looks like an elf. And her eyes are sharp!
Clone of Shadows
Feb 07 2008, 03:17 PM
thanks for the info blank, at least we now know what one of the charaters personality will be like :)
Amleya
Feb 07 2008, 03:18 PM
Lighting looks like an elf. And her eyes are sharp!
Pretty too :D *draws Lightning since colors look fun*
Clone of Shadows
Feb 07 2008, 03:21 PM
Lighting looks like an elf. And her eyes are sharp!
yeah i like here eyes, it looks like she is looking right at u (image at top).
Hae Jung Shin
Feb 07 2008, 03:34 PM
It appears there wasn' t that kind of woman so far, now I'm curious, Ashe was already different from the previous girls too, I wonder if they're going to abandon this trend...you know, like yuffie/selphie/rikku/penelo, or aeris/rinoa/yuna, or ... zell/tidus/sabin (?) ^^
Clone of Shadows
Feb 07 2008, 03:36 PM
there will always be annoying chracters u cant like them all :)
Hae Jung Shin
Feb 07 2008, 04:25 PM
I meant the trend when they tend to create similar characters in each part :cunning:
Vidya
Feb 07 2008, 04:57 PM
I don't see how she doesn't cry automatically makes her a tough character, but I guess we have to go with storytelling devices here...but meh. I find nothing weak about crying, I find that it makes people stronger but that is just my opinion.
And muscular legs...hmm. Okay then. I don't think so, personally.
Dark Vincent
Feb 07 2008, 07:23 PM
That attitude sounds like a military soldier. I respect that.
By muscular legs they mean sexy, like Aya Brea from Parasite Eve. In fact, I always thought Lightning was a red-haired version of Aya. Which is awesome!
They posted this on PS3 fanboy today btw:
http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2008/02/07/nomura-dishes-some-xiii-and-versus-xiii-info-in-famitsu/
The Versus Prince's name comes out on the next interview then, finally lol
Fenristh
Feb 07 2008, 09:10 PM
I've reposted the article. I can always edit if some details are wrong or need updating but we're the last place to post this now, so, yeah.
BlankChocobo
Feb 08 2008, 12:31 AM
I've reposted the article. I can always edit if some details are wrong or need updating but we're the last place to post this now, so, yeah.
Sorry T_T
Well, I hope I got it right in the end... my details and Maiki's still don't match up, even after I went back and checked everything.
I just didn't want to have us post something that was wrong. ~_~
Whiplash
Feb 08 2008, 01:08 AM
I've reposted the article. I can always edit if some details are wrong or need updating but we're the last place to post this now, so, yeah.
But we've got the BEST DAMN TRANSLATION! C'mon lads, let's go to the pub.
Kitmitsu
Feb 08 2008, 01:16 AM
But we've got the BEST DAMN TRANSLATION! C'mon lads, let's go to the pub.
HELL YEAH! Blanks got first round! D:
Fenristh
Feb 08 2008, 01:19 AM
Im dying .
Misschoco
Feb 08 2008, 08:52 PM
3 pages down and this thread is already morphing into pikey spam.......
I don't see how she doesn't cry automatically makes her a tough character, but I guess we have to go with storytelling devices here...but meh. I find nothing weak about crying, I find that it makes people stronger but that is just my opinion.
And muscular legs...hmm. Okay then. I don't think so, personally.
tough in the sense that she doesn't instantly reveal that emotion as soon as she feels it.Shes able tp retain tears which many people would have difficulty in-hell did i make sense>
BlankChocobo
Feb 08 2008, 09:37 PM
HELL YEAH! Blanks got first round! D:
I'm a strong opponent of alcohol use. Buy your own booze. :P
3 pages down and this thread is already morphing into pikey spam.......
tough in the sense that she doesn't instantly reveal that emotion as soon as she feels it.Shes able tp retain tears which many people would have difficulty in-hell did i make sense>
Unless I completely missed it, the interview never says anything about her not crying. ~_~ Also, nothing about her not being sweet. I think that original translation was a mistranslation of Nomura's remarks about the difficulty of making a tough character that the players can associate emotionally with~
Misschoco
Feb 08 2008, 09:39 PM
Unless I completely missed it, the interview never says anything about her not crying. ~_~ Also, nothing about her not being sweet. I think that original translation was a mistranslation of Nomura's remarks about the difficulty of making a tough character that the players can associate emotionally with~
bleh-what i thought at first only her muscular legs were mentioned and not anything about actually displaying tears-but i enjoyed the speculation :rolleyes:
BlankChocobo
Feb 08 2008, 09:42 PM
bleh-what i thought at first only her muscular legs were mentioned and not anything about actually displaying tears-but i enjoyed the speculation :rolleyes:
Pshhh~ Sorry I'm an OCD rumor cop. :P
Lol well this is a first. Mostly the women in the game get all emotional and then go emo about little things, but this seems like a nice twist to the series. A bend in the good the good direction.
Mavet
Feb 09 2008, 02:31 PM
Im starting to think that Lightning will be more like Lulu from FFX.
Fantasygurl1227
Feb 09 2008, 03:27 PM
Im starting to think that Lightning will be more like Lulu from FFX.
Maybe a little like lulu, but I think she'll be a bit more lively than her, (not in a happy sweet way) Hopefully she won't have a personality the resembles a cold stone.... Maybe....she would cry if somebody shot her in the foot lol ....But hey its about time we got a bad a$$ female protagonist :P
thunderbolts9
Feb 18 2008, 04:22 PM
She has muscular legs? The fanboys must be all a-flutter :kira:
Personally I'd have preferred him to mention a character name.
Lightning is her name. There isn't going to be any new name announcements because her name is lightning. they was an article that said that the developers of FF XIII said that lightning is going to be the last character that has a "weather" name for a while.
BlankChocobo
Feb 18 2008, 11:50 PM
Lightning is her name. There isn't going to be any new name announcements because her name is lightning. they was an article that said that the developers of FF XIII said that lightning is going to be the last character that has a "weather" name for a while.
Where was an article that said that? Do you remember where you saw it?
I would like to read it. ^___^ And if the Versus protagonist also has a weather name, did they just forget about him or were they considering the two games to come out at the "same time," I wonder...? Since Nomura says that he will have a weather name, too..
Whiplash
Feb 19 2008, 03:56 AM
I would also like to see that article seeing as I was still thinking that Lightning was her codename.
Plus I meant ANY character's name.
well if the weather name ends at FF13 then Versus should be fine.
Amleya
Feb 19 2008, 09:20 AM
I think when they say it'll end at XIII..... they mean the whole XIIIs.
OmiVersusXIV
Feb 20 2008, 10:35 PM
I like hows she's going to be a female cloud now thats going to be interseting
thunderbolts9
Feb 24 2008, 12:24 AM
Where was an article that said that? Do you remember where you saw it?
I would like to read it. ^___^ And if the Versus protagonist also has a weather name, did they just forget about him or were they considering the two games to come out at the "same time," I wonder...? Since Nomura says that he will have a weather name, too..
they already have a name set for him too. and it's not be a weather name if they said that. cuz i wouldnt just blow off what a developer said. her name is lightning and they said that is final (its not a code name its her name).
Maiya Saiyado
Feb 24 2008, 02:14 AM
they already have a name set for him too. and it's not be a weather name if they said that. cuz i wouldnt just blow off what a developer said. her name is lightning and they said that is final (its not a code name its her name).
Um, no. He does have a weather or at least one related to weather. Nomura, who is directing the Versus game already said that his name would be related to to weather since it follows up with FFXIII and the protagonist's name is Lightning. Where did they say her name was "final"? They already said that it's like a "nickname" and she just uses it. We have no idea what her "real" name is. Please state evidence.
Pulse
Feb 24 2008, 02:18 AM
they already have a name set for him too. and it's not be a weather name if they said that. cuz i wouldnt just blow off what a developer said. her name is lightning and they said that is final (its not a code name its her name).
............ I assume you are talking from your immense knowledge of FNC?
Aizawa: Let's settle this once and for all. Is "Lightning" her name?
Toriyama: It is not her name. She refers to herself as "Lightning", and is called by that by others. We don't want to reveal her real name because you will find that out in the game. So please look forward to that.
Heres the link to the interview. Pwned.
http://finalfantasy-xiii.net/fabula-nova-crystallis/interviews/famitsu_jf2006_eng.php
Oh and well done on knowing more about FNC than Kitmitsu. :cookie:
Brave27heart
Feb 24 2008, 09:47 PM
She does sound a little cold. Maybe hardened is the right word? She is a soldier after all. The big question, and i suppose the key to the story is when did she become like that and why? Memory is a key theme in FFXIII and lightening has lost hers, hence the reason we dont know her real name. So maybe there was some catostrophic event in her life that has made her become the person she is? Maybe she was a sweet happy go lucky person before whatever event changed her?
I dont really have a problem with a strong female lead, in fact it makes a nice change if the major character is female as opposed to male (FFX-2 excluded). I dont think they'll make her stone cold though, people wont relate to her if they did. Even strong female leads need to have moments of weakness or frailty to make them seem more human and believable (think Ripley in Aliens).
squrenixrulz2011
Mar 08 2008, 12:04 AM
I personally think that lightning is one of the sexiest final fantasy characters next to tifa (advent children version) and yuna. She's strong and sexy and she seems like the type of character where if she did wind up in a relationship with someone that she would act differently when the two of them were alone. Plus I think that her amnesia has something to do with her seriousness.
To be frank, I hope she doesn't end up like Tifa or Yuna. They may've been strong in their own ways, but Lightning needs to be different. I like what I've heard so far in terms of her personality--strong willed, in control of her emotions, almost hardened, like Brave27heart said. And I REALLY hope there isn't romance (between Lightning, anyway), in this one. Romance always ruins everything. <_<
Lelouch
Mar 08 2008, 12:45 AM
I personally think that lightning is one of the sexiest final fantasy characters next to tifa (advent children version) and yuna. She's strong and sexy and she seems like the type of character where if she did wind up in a relationship with someone that she would act differently when the two of them were alone. Plus I think that her amnesia has something to do with her seriousness.
I agree with you that lightning is the sexiest but Tifa? no way :P
Misschoco
Mar 09 2008, 09:32 AM
If she was too compassionate then I'd be more likely to see her in an animal farm than a soldier.She has somewhat perfect qualities for being a soldier.The fact that she has comrades-its obvious she doesn't diminish relationships.
AT23
Mar 09 2008, 10:59 PM
Lightning is exactly what gamers and final fantasy followers needed for a refreshing new heroine image for the series. She's sexy, stylish, no none-sense and strong. I look forward to this game and hope to see a fantastic character development occur during the course of the game.
TBG07
Mar 10 2008, 02:06 PM
I hope Lightning (what a name) won't be talking in cheesy one-liners... that would seriously s*ck.
Misschoco
Mar 10 2008, 08:48 PM
Lightning is exactly what gamers and final fantasy followers needed for a refreshing new heroine image for the series. She's sexy, stylish, no none-sense and strong. I look forward to this game and hope to see a fantastic character development occur during the course of the game.
Definitely a change from yuna and tifa etc in the FF series.Not that she probably lacks compassion, she can just probably subdue it.Whats great about her is that she isn't dainty.
Cathryn
Mar 10 2008, 08:58 PM
Definatly a good change.
But it's just her emotions that I'm worried about.
*BUT SHE HAS AMNESIA AND DOESN'T KNOW WHAT EMOTIONS ARE* :aldo:
I want emotion protrayed through her character, and it'll most likely show in certain aspects, but i wouldn't want the team to cut off all emotions. Crying is part of human emotion, now surely if you punched her in the face or killed her family she would cry. :aldo:
N O C T E
Mar 10 2008, 09:01 PM
Now, surely if you punched her in the face or killed her family she would cry. :aldo:
I hope not. :aldo:
I want her to show almost no emotion through the game, so when she actually does, its meaningful.
I bet she bottles up her emotions and unleashes them w/ and anger like nothing we have ever seen. I would like that. :aldo:
Cathryn
Mar 10 2008, 09:05 PM
Mr. 33cm could contribute to the emotional barriers.
OMFGZ LOVE. :aldo:
I'd love it if she bitch slapped his face. Total giggalo ownge.
N O C T E
Mar 10 2008, 09:08 PM
Mr. 33cm could contribute to the emotional barriers.
OMFGZ LOVE. :aldo:
I'd love it if she bitch slapped his face. Total giggalo ownge.
ROFL.
It would be hilarious if Mr. 33cm was the emotional one who cried a lot. :aldo:
Cathryn
Mar 10 2008, 09:11 PM
He's seems to much of a smug bitch to cry. safssa.
But i can't seem to get a love connection between Lightning and Mr. 33cm out of my head. D;
But thats because they are 2/3 characters introduced, so pairings happen instantly. :aldo:
N O C T E
Mar 10 2008, 09:29 PM
He's seems to much of a smug bitch to cry. safssa.
But i can't seem to get a love connection between Lightning and Mr. 33cm out of my head. D;
But thats because they are 2/3 characters introduced, so pairings happen instantly. :aldo:
Thats true. Hopefully that won't happen though. I don't want to see 33 and Lightning hook up. :aldo:
Clone of Shadows
Mar 10 2008, 09:32 PM
Thats true. Hopefully that won't happen though. I don't want to see 33 and Lightning hook up. :aldo:
i agree with that.
Cathryn
Mar 10 2008, 09:33 PM
What if a dissagreed. :aldo:
Misschoco
Mar 10 2008, 10:41 PM
Definatly a good change.
But it's just her emotions that I'm worried about.
*BUT SHE HAS AMNESIA AND DOESN'T KNOW WHAT EMOTIONS ARE* :aldo:
I want emotion protrayed through her character, and it'll most likely show in certain aspects, but i wouldn't want the team to cut off all emotions. Crying is part of human emotion, now surely if you punched her in the face or killed her family she would cry. :aldo:
Just like random characters with diminished emotions as they cant remember what they felt in previous times. If all of her emotions were to be cut of then we would be confronted with a robotic shell that carries out 'programmed' orders. Unless shes a heartless whoer then shedding tears should be somewhat natural to her.rofl I es not making sense :aldo: Here we go again.Lightning wouldn't know what emotions were and one of the main components of the game would be her comrades teaching her compassion etc. Seen it many times before<<
TBG07
Mar 11 2008, 03:03 PM
yeah the whole amnesia thing has been done to death...
Clone of Shadows
Mar 11 2008, 03:05 PM
yeah the whole amnesia thing has been done to death...
yeah i agree its getting old now.
Misschoco
Mar 11 2008, 06:37 PM
yeah the whole amnesia thing has been done to death...
cliche<yes as much as this word is starting to annoy me.
AT23
Mar 11 2008, 06:44 PM
Yes, cliche is becoming cliche, yes, I can see it now... it will rule the world! mwahahaha!!! I would actually like to see Lightning be calm and collected, then she breaks down from all the stress. Namely that she cries about having amnesia and can't remember anything or gets a bit emotional like why did she have to be chosen as the enemy of Cocoon and the human race.
Misschoco
Mar 11 2008, 06:56 PM
Yes, cliche is becoming cliche, yes, I can see it now... it will rule the world! mwahahaha!!! I would actually like to see Lightning be calm and collected, then she breaks down from all the stress. Namely that she cries about having amnesia and can't remember anything or gets a bit emotional like why did she have to be chosen as the enemy of Cocoon and the human race.
Strange world :aldo: ^ In other words a purpose crisis..I would still relate this to an identity crisis(cliche<damn this word) why? In some sense if a person loses all purpose(this always applies to anime characters etc) then they start to question their identity and reason for existence if their contribution and purpose is nil.With all the pressure mounted on her sooner or later shes bound to break down is some form but later form a resolve.
AT23
Mar 11 2008, 07:07 PM
Oh yes, totally an identity crisis... let's see how I can spice this up then... Lightning doesn't cry and has muscular legs, because she finds out she's a crystal-eating dragon, kinda like how it looks like a woman is morphing into a dragon-like creature on the title logo, and she goes rawr, and the soldiers goes ohnoes, *chompchompchomp*, nomnom crystal... :aldo: OR NO WAIT, SHE *IS* BAHAMUT!!!:dance:
Clone of Shadows
Mar 11 2008, 07:10 PM
Oh yes, totally an identity crisis... let's see how I can spice this up then... Lightning doesn't cry and has muscular legs, because she finds out she's a crystal-eating dragon, kinda like how it looks like a woman is morphing into a dragon-like creature on the title logo, and she goes rawr, and the soldiers goes ohnoes, *chompchompchomp*, nomnom crystal... :aldo: OR NO WAIT, SHE *IS* BAHAMUT!!!:dance:
lol that would be funny.
Misschoco
Mar 11 2008, 07:37 PM
Oh yes, totally an identity crisis... let's see how I can spice this up then... Lightning doesn't cry and has muscular legs, because she finds out she's a crystal-eating dragon, kinda like how it looks like a woman is morphing into a dragon-like creature on the title logo, and she goes rawr, and the soldiers goes ohnoes, *chompchompchomp*, nomnom crystal... :aldo: OR NO WAIT, SHE *IS* BAHAMUT!!!:dance:
Sugoi :aldo: <3 lulz cliche story time people-She turns into this monster because she was a government experiment and her genes were tampered with.
Naunen
Mar 12 2008, 02:45 AM
Don't most Final Fantasy main characters have some sort of amnesia? Isn't that what Final Fantasy is now?
OmiVersusXIV
Mar 12 2008, 03:51 AM
Don't most Final Fantasy main characters have some sort of amnesia? Isn't that what Final Fantasy is now?
Yeah most but I dont think recently like FFX or FFXII didnt
10 and 12 didn't for sure. I don't know about 9 or 11, simply because I hated 9 to death and never bothered playing 11. I hope they don't do that in this one though, unless it's presented in some innovative way.
AT23
Mar 12 2008, 05:41 AM
If you have not played 9 or 11, and don't want spoilers... don't click the spoiler tag!
Ok, in 9, Zidane has no memory of being a Genome or whatever Kuja is until near the end. Close enough to amnesia. 11, you're the protagonist, a true rpg-styled game. So unless you personally have/had amnesia, it's not possible for the protagonist (you) to have amnesia.
O hai, Lightning doesn't cry and has muscular legs because he is actually Cloud in drag, Cloud can't stop hoarding all the attention to himself so he just had to make an appearance in FFXIII... under the condition that he would have to use a different name and cross-dress so it won't be obvious it's him. I heard it was quite epic as he battled the part out with Squall, but since Cloud is a longer home slice to Nomura he got chosen. Kick those muscular, shinra-building-debri-hopping legs (*coughFFVII:ACreferencecoughchokegaspwheezedies*) , Cloudie! Er, I mean LIGHTNING! :rolleyes:
Edit: Yes, there are always the spoiler tags, thank you Naunen! :D
Naunen
Mar 12 2008, 05:46 AM
If you have not played 9 or 11, and don't want spoilers... don't bother reading past the line of asterisks.
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Ok, in 9, Zidane has no memory of being a Genome or whatever Kuja is until near the end. Close enough to amnesia. 11, you're the protagonist, a true rpg-styled game. So unless you personally have/had amnesia, it's not possible for the protagonist (you) to have amnesia.
O hai, Lightning doesn't cry and has muscular legs because he is actually Cloud in drag, Cloud can't stop hoarding all the attention to himself so he just had to make an appearance in FFXIII... under the condition that he would have to use a different name and cross-dress so it won't be obvious it's him. I heard it was quite epic as he battled the part out with Squall, but since Cloud is a longer home slice to Nomura he got chosen. Kick those muscular, shinra-building-debri-hopping legs (*coughFFVII:ACreferencecoughchokegaspwheezedies*) , Cloudie! Er, I mean LIGHTNING! :rolleyes:
----There's always the spoiler tag. :cunning:
Jive Turkey
Mar 12 2008, 07:25 AM
Alot of things have been done to death in FF but it didn't make any difference in how ppl did or didn't like particular ones...as for muscular legs, who the hell cares...she's strong she's supposed to have muscle anyways.....I think in my personal opinion she will show more emotion then Cloud, whether it be in a mean way or a calm way....
Cathryn
Mar 12 2008, 02:37 PM
VII did. To a respect, Cloud was given Zacks identity from him before he died.
So he some what suffered amnesia, but it was more of an identity crisis he suffered.
X did also. Tidus had to 'act' as if he had amnesia. By saying he got to close to Sin and inhaled his toxins. Yet he was aware that he didn't suffer from amnesia.
IX did definatly anyway.
SirBaron
Mar 12 2008, 05:21 PM
Lightning is lesbian, no doubt, and Mr 33cm doesn't get it until the end of the game. I mean, she has to be since the Versus guy is gay.
That's how i would have it. At least it would be original.
jehovah
Mar 12 2008, 05:45 PM
OMG,i'm still laughing...this last post is just too funny...but it would be original...hey,whoever has to run,wield that (i suppose)heavy gunblade and kill all those beasts,soldiers,etc has to have muscular legs...
http://www.pspsps.tv/FFXIII%20posters-1.jpg
and from this pic she doesn't look like someone with muscular legs...at least not for me....
Clone of Shadows
Mar 12 2008, 05:51 PM
she looks like a slim athletic women to me, is this why they say her legs r muscular?
SirBaron
Mar 12 2008, 05:58 PM
Muscular doesn't mean big and bulky. Take Bruce Lee as an example.
And muscular or not, Lightning is damn sexy. Too bad she's swimming the other way.
Clone of Shadows
Mar 12 2008, 06:03 PM
Muscular doesn't mean big and bulky. Take Bruce Lee as an example.
And muscular or not, Lightning is damn sexy. Too bad she's swimming the other way.
yeah see is sexy but dont asume shes a lez. u never know what she'll end up like
SirBaron
Mar 12 2008, 06:41 PM
yeah see is sexy but dont asume shes a lez. u never know what she'll end up like
Don't shoot down my dreams pls :(
Cathryn
Mar 12 2008, 07:04 PM
Lightning is lesbian, no doubt, and Mr 33cm doesn't get it until the end of the game. I mean, she has to be since the Versus guy is gay.
That's how i would have it. At least it would be original.
Do you have an e-gaydar? :aldo:
SirBaron
Mar 12 2008, 07:13 PM
Do you have an e-gaydar? :aldo:
If instinct is the same as an e-gaydar, then yes.
TBG07
Mar 13 2008, 09:53 AM
well haha if Lightning would be a lez... that could be considered original...never done before in FF... right?
I like the comparison in the Versus thread that if the prince was gay, there would be some major annoyance, Yet the thought of Lightning being gay has not yet been shot down.
Shuyu
Mar 13 2008, 04:42 PM
Because everyone knows that chicks doing other chicks is quite possibly the hawtest thing to ever exist. For some reason, males and myself find it unbelievably appealing and will never ever disagree with it. We are sick, sick people to see lesbianism as a tool for major fapping.
But I'd still totally go for it if it were to happen. Vote Gay-Lightning '08!
AT23
Mar 14 2008, 08:39 AM
Needs less crying, moar buff legs! :mudkip:
Cathryn
Mar 14 2008, 11:17 AM
But admitedly, Lightning is fit.
But i have a sense she wants the cock. :aldo:
Brave27heart
Mar 14 2008, 09:48 PM
The question is girls, would you?
There's the hint of tomboy in her, so a lesbian love affair isn't out of the question. Im not sure they'd go in that direction with her, it'd be a bold move and i'd give them credit for that.
Strifer
Mar 14 2008, 09:55 PM
Believe me. In certain scenes I think she will cry but it's difficult.
Misschoco
Mar 14 2008, 10:21 PM
Discussing her sexuality?-I hope this doesn't turn into the thread about the sexuality of the protagonist in versus.
Clone of Shadows
Mar 14 2008, 10:26 PM
Discussing her sexuality?-I hope this doesn't turn into the thread about the sexuality of the protagonist in versus.
i think it wil.
Misschoco
Mar 14 2008, 10:38 PM
i think it wil.
I hope it doesn't though-It'd turn into a discussion about sexual oppression. Maintain the original topic and we wont got down that road.
Strifer
Mar 14 2008, 10:58 PM
Huh.. Did I say something?O_O
Misschoco
Mar 14 2008, 11:02 PM
Huh.. Did I say something?O_O
No>Its just general comments about lightnings sexuality could turn into a tiresome topic about 'sexual oppression'
Cathryn
Mar 14 2008, 11:46 PM
The question is girls, would you?
Totally. :aldo:
But because she is merly a fictional character. I'll just stick with Angelina Jolie and Summer Glau. :cathryn:
The question is girls, would you?
There's the hint of tomboy in her, so a lesbian love affair isn't out of the question. Im not sure they'd go in that direction with her, it'd be a bold move and i'd give them credit for that.
I'm a tomboy but I've never been interested in women in any sexual way. If you are gay, that's cool and shit, but having more in common with the male stereotype doesn't imply anything. I've known women who're girlier than me and they weren't straight.
...I'm kinda getting too much into this though. FRICKIN TIRED! :'(
Misschoco
Mar 16 2008, 04:42 PM
So we switch to the topic of sexuality?-I'm not saying I oppose it but (sorry for repeating myself) It could easily just turn into the thread about the protagonists sexuality in versus where people made stupid assumptions 'oh his in a headlock so he must be gay'
TBG07
Mar 16 2008, 05:59 PM
Come to think of it...does it really matter? Are there honestly fans who WON'T play FFXIII or Versus if the protagonist turns out to be gay?
SirBaron
Mar 16 2008, 06:38 PM
Come to think of it...does it really matter? Are there honestly fans who WON'T play FFXIII or Versus if the protagonist turns out to be gay?
I would be more inclined to play it if Lightning and Princey *were* gay. That would make for some interesting character development.
Misschoco
Mar 16 2008, 06:44 PM
Come to think of it...does it really matter? Are there honestly fans who WON'T play FFXIII or Versus if the protagonist turns out to be gay?
It doesnt matter-But you could have idiots slipping in that its sexually oppressive<I wont explain as I cant articulate it.Seriously I like to get back to the chit chat of well erm.....Lightnings muscular legs.
Naunen
Mar 16 2008, 11:00 PM
o_o She and Yuna from X-2 have the same legs basically so I don't think they are that muscular since I don't see any implying contours. Not that I'm expecting huge muscles but I don't see why Nomura would mention so while she doesn't look so.
Summoner Stiltzkin
Apr 04 2008, 02:44 AM
It probably wouldn't be a problem for true Final Fantasy fans - but then what about the mass if ignorants who'll find out about it and go "oh noes the sky will fall in if I buy this" or some such - who probably still make up a good chunk of SE's sales numbers.
I think it would be a good change for XIII and/or VXIII - FF romances can be sweet but original they have never been. Something new is always interesting.
Cathryn
Apr 04 2008, 05:17 PM
Come to think of it...does it really matter? Are there honestly fans who WON'T play FFXIII or Versus if the protagonist turns out to be gay?
Some people are Homophobic, so even if she turned out to be gay, they would most likely not play it.
Which is utterly pathetic. :aldo:
SirBaron
Apr 04 2008, 10:37 PM
Some people are Homophobic, so even if she turned out to be gay, they would most likely not play it.
Which is utterly pathetic. :aldo:
Any male player who has no substantial deviating sexual fantasies will find the prospect of a lesbian protagonist quite much of a reason just to buy the game.
sasdx
Apr 04 2008, 10:46 PM
Does it matter if shes lesbo.There wont be any sex things(i really wish though) so why does it matter.^_^
SirBaron
Apr 04 2008, 11:07 PM
Does it matter if shes lesbo.There wont be any sex things(i really wish though) so why does it matter.^_^
A steamy kiss maybe? Always something to hope for.
olol let's see Mr. 33cm kiss another bishounen character, ja?
SirBaron
Apr 05 2008, 12:00 AM
olol let's see Mr. 33cm kiss another bishounen character, ja?
As long as he does it like a man.
Naunen
Apr 05 2008, 12:49 AM
As long as he does it like a man.
----Damn straight. :|
sasdx
Apr 05 2008, 03:44 AM
Wait maybe Mr.33cm guy is her boyfriend. o.o
OmiVersusXIV
Apr 05 2008, 04:38 AM
Wait maybe Mr.33cm guy is her boyfriend. o.o
Yeah i kinda think that to but i think their relationship isnt that great
sasdx
Apr 05 2008, 04:45 AM
Yeah i kinda think that to but i think their relationship isnt that great I was thinking that after awhile maybe there in some kind of a off on sorta thing.Never know they may get a kiss scene :wub:
Naunen
Apr 05 2008, 08:05 AM
We don't know anything about that guy yet. o_o
Cathryn
Apr 05 2008, 10:24 AM
This guy sits inbetween two Shiva's while he drives. That says enough :aldo:
sasdx
Apr 05 2008, 02:17 PM
We don't know anything about that guy yet. o_oWe are just thinking ahead.
Dark Slayer
Apr 05 2008, 04:03 PM
Lightning is out of the ordinary thats to say. Give us a new perspective of the FF femals perhaps thats what they did to Lightning. we'll see what'll happen in the game.
SirBaron
Apr 05 2008, 08:25 PM
This guy sits inbetween two Shiva's while he drives. That says enough :aldo:
I can just imagine the nasty 33cmxShivatwins-hentai that'll crop up on the intardnets once the game hits the shelves.
Shuyu
Apr 06 2008, 02:50 AM
I can just imagine the nasty LightningxPigtailgirlxSirenxShivatwins-orgy-hentai that'll crop up on the intardnets before the game hits the shelves.
Fix'd.
You were all thinking it... I hope. O:
I also expect an abundance of the original thought, as well as some really messed up LightningxIfrit. I have come to expect about as little from the internet by way of morality as I do myself.
SirBaron
Apr 07 2008, 07:23 AM
Fix'd.
You were all thinking it... I hope. O:
I also expect an abundance of the original thought, as well as some really messed up LightningxIfrit. I have come to expect about as little from the internet by way of morality as I do myself.
Well yeah, you can always expect the internet to provide you with the desired material if the game itself doesn't. :lol:
Flames Of Oblivion
Apr 08 2008, 08:08 PM
the leg thing sounds iffy but I like the idea of a not weak female character. and the fact that she is good looking is cool. a good looking strong female character finally ^^.
Cloud3x
Apr 08 2008, 09:55 PM
woah..the muscular leg thingy sure sounds dangerous.
just imagine how much damage she could cause to her (male) enemies crotch. :o
but then again muscular legs = bigger legs = i like big butts and i cannot lie... xD
LightningXIII
Apr 20 2008, 05:36 PM
Lightning having muscular legs isn't a mistranslation. Toriyama wanted her whole body to be much more athletic and muscular, but Nomura didn't like that idea. Her legs being muscular is sort of an agreement for the conflict between both their ideas.
Dark Slayer
May 02 2008, 01:44 PM
wonder what will happen with that of what your saying....conflicts huh.....I wouldn't like that athletic body believe me. Thats way too improper for Lightning. Lets see how this thing ends up.
I'm also concerned about the no crying thing......I can imagine a Lightning without any feelings at all
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