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OmiVersusXIV
Feb 20 2008, 08:54 PM
I dont know if anyone has thought of this yet but what if the crystal is controlling him because when his eyes turn red and he shows no emotion it looks like he's being controlled and like nomura said that he's not the least bit quiet so the crystal could possibly be controlling him and his actions. So what do you guys think?
I would have to disagree. I think that he is useing the crystals power to kill anyone in his path. Also I belive he either has the crystal on a necklace around his neck or it's embeded into him.
OmiVersusXIV
Feb 20 2008, 08:59 PM
I would have to disagree. I think that he is useing the crystals power to kill anyone in his path. Also I belive he either has the crystal on a necklace around his neck or it's embeded into him.
I saw a screen of the crystal on the engine sword
There you go mate. The crystal is his power.
Cathryn
Feb 20 2008, 09:00 PM
I always thought that the change within his eyes are due to certain ability's, spells or summons.
Such as, when he summons his weapons, his eyes blatantly change colour, same applied with the Female Protagonist/Antagonist, when she summoned her rapier her eyes turned into a distinctive Purple colour.
I really think she has a crystal power too and he kicks her ass, then she falls in love with him because he is soo powerful then a one sided love story falls in place.
OmiVersusXIV
Feb 20 2008, 09:02 PM
I always thought that the change within his eyes are due to certain ability's, spells or summons.
Such as, when he summons his weapons, his eyes blatantly change colour, same applied with the Female Protagonist/Antagonist, when she summoned her rapier her eyes turned into a distinctive Purple colour.
yeah thats true
OmiVersusXIV
Feb 20 2008, 09:03 PM
I really think she has a crystal power too and he kicks her ass, then she falls in love with him because he is soo powerful then a one sided love story falls in place.
I think she has manufactored crystal like how in FFXII they had necticite and manufactored necitice with just as much power
Yeah that would be awesome. But is the love story worth it?
OmiVersusXIV
Feb 20 2008, 09:07 PM
Yeah that would be awesome. But is the love story worth it?
I think it would be but FF love storys to me arent that good
Cathryn
Feb 20 2008, 09:07 PM
I really think she has a crystal power too and he kicks her ass, then she falls in love with him because he is soo powerful then a one sided love story falls in place.
I wouldn't say Love is a theme of the story, it seems to natural to involve any heavy emotions, yet i supose if its part of the plot then its possible.
Nomura(?) said that the Shakespearian quote 'There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so' Is linked between the Male Protagonist and the Female Protagonist/Antagonist.
Misschoco
Feb 20 2008, 09:09 PM
when she summoned her rapier her eyes turned into a distinctive Purple colour.
no waiz-her eyes turn purple :aldo:
concerning the theory-He wouldn't have to be controlled by the crystal to lack human empathy.Wouldn't the crystal have to be somewhat alive in itself to break the barriers of controlling actions which aren't reserved?
Well if he is useing Shakespear then their must be a love story involved, but this story will not be all shown in detail
Misschoco
Feb 20 2008, 09:17 PM
Well if he is useing Shakespear then their must be a love story involved, but this story will not be all shown in detail
He didnt just create romeo and juliet, I usually associate Shakespeare's work with tragedy,pain and madness to clarify things-the themes
OmiVersusXIV
Feb 20 2008, 09:17 PM
Well if he is useing Shakespear then their must be a love story involved, but this story will not be all shown in detail
That would feel chessey if it was shown in full detail
OmiVersusXIV
Feb 20 2008, 09:18 PM
He didnt just create romeo and juliet, I usually associate Shakespeare's work with tragedy,pain and madness to clarify things-the themes
yeah Hamlet is my favorite of his plays and I think its more hamlet then Romeo and Juliet
Cathryn
Feb 20 2008, 09:20 PM
Well if he is useing Shakespear then their must be a love story involved, but this story will not be all shown in detail
Shakespear wasn't all about love, he played around with many emotions within his play.
Tradgedies was the main theme, Hamlet and Romeo and Juliet tooks these roles mainly. And due to the presentation of FFvsXIII within the Trailers we've seen or read descriptions upon so far, they seem to give off that theme well.
OmiVersusXIV
Feb 20 2008, 09:22 PM
Shakespear wasn't all about love, he played around with many emotions within his play.
Tradgedies was the main theme, Hamlet and Romeo and Juliet tooks these roles mainly. And due to the presentation of FFvsXIII within the Trailers we've seen or read descriptions upon so far, they seem to give off that theme well.
Hell yeah it was all tragedy from the beginning to end
Well. As you seen. Every FF game known to now cept the old old ones has a love story involved.
OmiVersusXIV
Feb 20 2008, 09:29 PM
Well. As you seen. Every FF game known to now cept the old old ones has a love story involved.
yeah but only the one with Cloud and Aerith was good to me
steeld
Feb 20 2008, 11:22 PM
yeah but only the one with Cloud and Aerith was good to me
was that love love though? didnt zack and aerith had thing?
i think their might be a really really really tragic (love) story in this game...also i dont think the crystals will influence battles that much..
Cathryn
Feb 20 2008, 11:27 PM
Well. As you seen. Every FF game known to now cept the old old ones has a love story involved.
But that doesn't justify that FFvsXIII will keep that 'tradition' and contain a love story.
OmiVersusXIV
Feb 20 2008, 11:27 PM
was that love love though? didnt zack and aerith had thing?
i think their might be a really really really tragic (love) story in this game...also i dont think the crystals will influence battles that much..
well yeah your right about Zack and Aerith but for the crystals we'll just have to find that out when more news hit
OmiVersusXIV
Feb 20 2008, 11:28 PM
But that doesn't justify that FFvsXIII will keep that 'tradition' and contain a love story.
I hope its a more unique Love story
steeld
Feb 20 2008, 11:31 PM
i hope it's not enemy turns into lover kind of story..
OmiVersusXIV
Feb 20 2008, 11:33 PM
i hope it's not enemy turns into lover kind of story..
That would be bad to me I would like it the other way. Lovers turned enemys
BlankChocobo
Feb 20 2008, 11:36 PM
I dont know if anyone has thought of this yet but what if the crystal is controlling him because when his eyes turn red and he shows no emotion it looks like he's being controlled and like nomura said that he's not the least bit quiet so the crystal could possibly be controlling him and his actions. So what do you guys think?
When I first saw the first trailer, I thought his glowing red eyes made him look possessed. I was thinking more symbolically forced to act by the violence of others than actually controlled, though.
Also I belive he either has the crystal on a necklace around his neck or it's embeded into him.
Haven't we heard already somewhere that the crystal is encased in the pillar behind the throne? I thought it was said by someone from SE.
OmiVersusXIV
Feb 20 2008, 11:38 PM
When I first saw the first trailer, I thought his glowing red eyes made him look possessed. I was thinking more symbolically forced to act by the violence of others than actually controlled, though.
Haven't we heard already somewhere that the crystal is encased in the pillar behind the throne? I thought it was said by someone from SE.
Yeah I think I saw a scan or screenshot of the versus guy next to the crystal I'll try and find it
Anima
Feb 21 2008, 12:03 AM
was that love love though? didnt zack and aerith had thing?
also i dont think the crystals will influence battles that much..
Yes they probably will. If you watch the trailer closely you can see the Prince has a part of the crystal on his sword and that missile launcher that the knight uses on the Prince has a crystal embedded in it. I think some weapons need to the crystal to run.
Exp. the Princes engine on his sword
steeld
Feb 21 2008, 12:09 AM
Yes they probably will. If you watch the trailer closely you can see the Prince has a part of the crystal on his sword and that missile launcher that the knight uses on the Prince has a crystal embedded in it. I think some weapons need to the crystal to run.
Exp. the Princes engine on his sword
it doesnt have to be a crystal, it's a tube like thing with a shiny blue substance inside. For all we know materia could be in there, or perhaps it's a byproduct from the crystals.
Terros
Feb 21 2008, 02:42 AM
I believe the crystal on the weapon was called "crystal fuel" which to me implies, that it's a liquid extracted from the crystal.
OmiVersusXIV
Feb 21 2008, 02:57 AM
I believe the crystal on the weapon was called "crystal fuel" which to me implies, that it's a liquid extracted from the crystal.
But isnt the crystal suppose to a being or shapeshifter
Misschoco
Feb 21 2008, 08:49 PM
I believe the crystal on the weapon was called "crystal fuel" which to me implies, that it's a liquid extracted from the crystal.
That was speculation or what someone perceived it as it wasn't specifically suggested officially that it was 'crystal fuel'. Its seems plausible.It could also be a mixture of chemicals which fuels the weapons and not necessarily something elemental i.e the crystal.
Terros
Feb 22 2008, 01:58 AM
But isnt the crystal suppose to a being or shapeshifter
There hasn't been any official info released on the crystal. All we were told is that the crystal won't be what you traditionally think of as a "crystal". The thing about it being a humanoid form or any other, or even a shape shifter is just speculation.
That was speculation or what someone perceived it as it wasn't specifically suggested officially that it was 'crystal fuel'. Its seems plausible.It could also be a mixture of chemicals which fuels the weapons and not necessarily something elemental i.e the crystal.
We don't know if the crystal is elemental, that too was just speculation.
OmiVersusXIV
Feb 22 2008, 02:06 AM
There hasn't been any official info released on the crystal. All we were told is that the crystal won't be what you traditionally think of as a "crystal". The thing about it being a humanoid form or any other, or even a shape shifter is just speculation.
We don't know if the crystal is elemental, that too was just speculation.
Him I wonder what it is exactly
Terros
Feb 23 2008, 03:03 AM
That's the main question. Answer that and you'll be able to answer a lot of other things.
OmiVersusXIV
Feb 23 2008, 04:44 AM
That's the main question. Answer that and you'll be able to answer a lot of other things.
yeah but i wonder when their going 2 tell us
Naunen
Feb 23 2008, 04:56 AM
Time can only tell.
OmiVersusXIV
Feb 23 2008, 04:59 AM
Time can only tell.
well I was hoping that they would say at GDC but I guesss not...what game convention is coming next
Naunen
Feb 23 2008, 05:22 AM
I can only think of the Square-Enix Party. @_@ I forget.
OmiVersusXIV
Feb 23 2008, 05:26 AM
I can only think of the Square-Enix Party. @_@ I forget.
whens thats
Naunen
Feb 23 2008, 05:28 AM
Somewhere in May.
OmiVersusXIV
Feb 23 2008, 05:30 AM
Somewhere in May.
u think they might inform us then and possibly show us the trailer
Naunen
Feb 23 2008, 05:44 AM
Maybe new info. Not sure about a trailer.
OmiVersusXIV
Feb 23 2008, 05:46 AM
when do you think either the TGS or Jump Festa trailer will come to america though
Naunen
Feb 23 2008, 05:56 AM
I doubt they would. Perhaps researching may answer your questions.
OmiVersusXIV
Feb 23 2008, 06:01 AM
I doubt they would. Perhaps researching may answer your questions.
yeah i guess so, i guess they just want us to crave for more stuff
epsilon
Feb 23 2008, 01:16 PM
I think his eyes changes colour according to the power he used. So red is not the only colour. Maybe if he do summon or some other magic, his eyes changes to other colour beside red.
And about the girl, i think it really remind me of romeo and Juliet love story. They love each other but are destined to fight each other.
Final
Feb 23 2008, 02:36 PM
Yeah, I think you're right
Naunen
Feb 23 2008, 08:23 PM
I think his eyes changes colour according to the power he used. So red is not the only colour. Maybe if he do summon or some other magic, his eyes changes to other colour beside red.
And about the girl, i think it really remind me of romeo and Juliet love story. They love each other but are destined to fight each other.
----We still don't know about the girl other than the possibility that she knows the Prince.
Misschoco
Feb 24 2008, 12:44 PM
And about the girl, i think it really remind me of romeo and Juliet love story. They love each other but are destined to fight each other.
Even though you speculated that I doubt it. I don't entirely think that their destined to fight each other but in fact choose to do so.This is old news but its already been clarified that if there were to be a love story it would be unorthodox meaning their romance would break with the running tradition.
steeld
Feb 26 2008, 03:21 AM
maybe they're brother and sister?:|:| maybe the mother and father split up , and became king and queen of 2 different countries, or something like that =P
OmiVersusXIV
Feb 26 2008, 03:24 AM
maybe they're brother and sister?:|:| maybe the mother and father split up , and became king and queen of 2 different countries, or something like that =P
yeah thats a possiblity or the guy in the white robe is the brother
Misschoco
Feb 26 2008, 05:14 PM
maybe they're brother and sister?:|:| maybe the mother and father split up , and became king and queen of 2 different countries, or something like that =P
Could be?? But thinking 'technically' they dont have similar physical attributes if they are siblings.But nomura may have said there was an absence in romance as these protagonists are in fact siblings-speculation only people :aldo:
Cathryn
Feb 26 2008, 08:12 PM
Brothers and Sisters who are born Months or Years apart don't seem to have similar physical attributes.
I've always figured them as family, herself being the elegant, provocavite and older sister. Where as of the Protagonist, more secluded, and calm, yet very powerful.
It would be nice if it was to my imagination. But it isn't unfortunatly. But i still think using them conparisions relate towards the quote 'There isn't anything good or bad, but thinking makes it so' It may be due to the fact that both have so much differences between each other, they cannot accept each other as an equal being. So both of them see each other as a high or more evil being.
I suppose. :aldo: It's just my meer imagination from my Doujin's talking.
Terros
Feb 27 2008, 02:12 AM
Brothers and Sisters who are born Months or Years apart don't seem to have similar physical attributes.
I've always figured them as family, herself being the elegant, provocavite and older sister. Where as of the Protagonist, more secluded, and calm, yet very powerful.
It would be nice if it was to my imagination. But it isn't unfortunatly. But i still think using them conparisions relate towards the quote 'There isn't anything good or bad, but thinking makes it so' It may be due to the fact that both have so much differences between each other, they cannot accept each other as an equal being. So both of them see each other as a high or more evil being.
I suppose. :aldo: It's just my meer imagination from my Doujin's talking.
She could be a cousin or a step-sister. If the story really does have a lot of similarities to the play "Hamlet" then the Prince will have a step-father. And they won't get along. In that case the step-father would be his Uncle (if the story follows Hamlet that much.)
OmiVersusXIV
Feb 27 2008, 02:31 AM
She could be a cousin or a step-sister. If the story really does have a lot of similarities to the play "Hamlet" then the Prince will have a step-father. And they won't get along. In that case the step-father would be his Uncle (if the story follows Hamlet that much.)
hey they have to some how be family in some way
steeld
Feb 27 2008, 03:04 AM
dont forget this is final fantasy :cookie: not hamlet :P
OmiVersusXIV
Feb 27 2008, 03:07 AM
dont forget this is final fantasy :cookie: not hamlet :P
yeah true true
Misschoco
Feb 28 2008, 03:33 PM
Brothers and Sisters who are born Months or Years apart don't seem to have similar physical attributes.
I've always figured them as family, herself being the elegant, provocavite and older sister. Where as of the Protagonist, more secluded, and calm, yet very powerful.
Those two characters don't seem as though they were born years apart-maybe Im being ageist :aldo:<whatever anyways.But I'll expand from my narrow mindedness and decide that 'sibling' rivalry is a possibility only after remembering the very similar crests radiating behind both protagonists.It could be an emblem of the family so relations are possible.
OmiVersusXIV
Feb 29 2008, 04:08 AM
Those two characters don't seem as though they were born years apart-maybe Im being ageist :aldo:<whatever anyways.But I'll expand from my narrow mindedness and decide that 'sibling' rivalry is a possibility only after remembering the very similar crests radiating behind both protagonists.It could be an emblem of the family so relations are possible.
Thats sounds good to me.
I hope in this game that when he stabs someone in the cutscene it shows you peirced his/her armor/clothing. Would give it a little more realistic look.
OmiVersusXIV
Mar 04 2008, 12:52 AM
I hope in this game that when he stabs someone in the cutscene it shows you peirced his/her armor/clothing. Would give it a little more realistic look.
Yeah it might since its using the power of the PS3 but it only might be for the reaction commands if they include it like they did KH
Naunen
Mar 04 2008, 12:53 AM
And there better be blood on him sometime too. :aldo:
OmiVersusXIV
Mar 04 2008, 12:58 AM
And there better be blood on him sometime too. :aldo:
Well I think with the Crystal Tools engine I think its going to be possible but don't count on it.
YUS the little boy with blood all over him! Lol
OmiVersusXIV
Mar 04 2008, 01:33 AM
for some reason I dont think they will unless there really pushing this game to the most realistic way possible.
Lol realistic? He teleports all over the place... he gets shot with a rocket launcher round. He blocks it with his swords. Explostion Vs Metal = Metal break soo not realistic. As in graphics and facial emotions he is close to realistic.
Misschoco
Mar 04 2008, 06:10 PM
I hope in this game that when he stabs someone in the cutscene it shows you peirced his/her armor/clothing. Would give it a little more realistic look.
....Which was greatly depicted in the 2nd trailer. The blood spillage wasn't censored the slightest so it will be a continues asset.
Besides this is the closet thing to reality in the ff series yet.
OmiVersusXIV
Mar 05 2008, 12:24 AM
Yeah i kinda liked how him killing the soldier wasnt over the top it was pretty moderate because they could have made him slice him in half or worse, so that was cool.
Terros
Mar 05 2008, 02:36 AM
Lol realistic? He teleports all over the place... he gets shot with a rocket launcher round. He blocks it with his swords. Explostion Vs Metal = Metal break soo not realistic. As in graphics and facial emotions he is close to realistic.
Don't forget this is a FINAL FANTASY, therefore, it needs to have the fantastical elements to it.
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