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tails509
Oct 02 2006, 07:39 PM
Well, basically, I don't know why some people deem this edition one of the best. Seriously, I despise this game, and were it up to me, I would not have purchased it at all, knowing its game-play.

The Draw sysem was very bland, and annoying. Nothing worse than drawing 100 Thunders thinking you were very smart, only to see the Thundara spell avaiable and all those times drawing seemed very useless.

Also, while you can equip the strongest magic, Ultima, to your HP...etc, using it will drop your statistics. I see this as totally unreasonable.

->

Storyline was very, well, complex, and I could not follow it. Bear in mind I have not played it in years, yet nor have I any other FF, and can vividly remember their storyline. I find Squall was a bad main, for the simple purpose that he had no 3D about him. He seemed to deal with all situations the same, and more than once I would tire of his "..." answers.

I have to admit though, there were some useless and addicitive stuff in it. For example, I adored the card system. I loved this aspect, and it was a game in itself. Boy I want to play it now.

GF system I also didn't take foundly too. I suppose in a way it was alright, but FF9 would have been better, learning skills off weapons rather than equipped GFs.

Meh, my ramble over. I'd like to debate this, seeing as this forum is basically empty. Whether you agree or not, fight your case. =d

Adieu

Desi
Oct 02 2006, 11:10 PM
I do agree it is horrible but not the worst. X-2 is but I won't get into that here. After i get a Wii, i'll play mystic quest. but i swear it is only easy, not bad.

It would take to long for me to explain why I hate it so I'll just make a minor attempt.

GF's: their part in the overall storyline was laughable compared to their importance in the game as a whole. "What I can't use what is in my pockets without a GF? How about magic? NO!". Somethings that are supposed to wipe your memories(no matter how bad that flashback was done) and are the only ways your characters can even be semi-decent have such little impact. Other then being a crappy final boss form.

Junction: Good idea but flawed. with these junctions i can either make my character a superior fighting force but I need a GF to do so. Not to mention as i did above about how useless people are without them. Squall with lionheart at level 75 should not hit for 300 damage against a fish. Also, only 4 commands on a list? This isn't FFV(or tactics but still), get with the times!

Magic: I can't say much except i hate the draw system, a mp based or day based(D&D) system are still much better. Not being able to dump magic also blows because your characters only have 8 pages with 5 spells per page.

Card system: pretty good, I like FF9's better because of the difference between peoples cards and it being more complexed. All in all triple triad is fun, not as good as tetra master but still fun.

Story: badly pulled off. It takes you till the begining of DISC 3 to know who your enemy is.

World: Pretty. Lots of random stuff here and their with things just disappearing and reappearing on the map when you have to go their. But it is pretty, i like it.

Romance: in the infamous ways of squall. "..." How can a girl that he totally hates and would classify as a burden be his love interest. I mean seriously, he hates her and goes off on her during disc one and follows suit with him having nothing to do with her in disc two. But all of a sudden in disc three he turns into a little girl and she is the most important thing to him. Reacting to everything with exaggerated motions when her name is brought up? Horrible.

Final Verdict: Yes I hate this game with a passion. I am even playing it AGAIN currently. I'm up to esthar right before they shoot us in space. I have super pimped characters and everything I could have except my sanity.

DarkChaos
Oct 03 2006, 07:31 AM
FFVIII is one of; if not; THE best Final Fantasy and I think it was pretty amazing when I first played it. Sure, it did feel as fun as FFVII but the story was loads more engrossing.

I thought everything was great with the game, the card system, the weapon upgrades, GF with Abilities etc. the only problems where the completely ridicolious EXP system, where 1000 points is needed for any level, espicially when you find monsters which give you 2000 per battle of Island Closest To Hell. The other problem, oh yeah! The whole Space scene was boring and a bit tedious, catching Rinoa was so annoying that for that reason alone I never use her (oh and shes rubbish too!).

Theres loads of good points to outway these minors like, the music excelled above the other Final Fantasies, the bosses were cool and DOLLET, The Landing, that made the game! Some other stuff too.. like Selphie's weapon which was a clamshell on the end of some sticks, cool huh? Oh and lets not be forgetting Laguna, genious character.

VERDICT (lol): Square tried to change the style of FF to make it different from samey stlye of previous games they'd made. People moaned, people whined.. so they gave us the boring-in-comparison Final Fantasy IX for punishment to show us how good VIII really was :D

Yes I hate this game with a passion. I am even playing it AGAIN currently.

Odd, To cement the ideas of why you hate it? Why waste the time when you could be playing such awesome games like 'its-completely-different-from-the-original!!' Kingdom Hearts II :p oh no, Goofy's in trouble again..

Wow, that was really poorly written.

tails509
Oct 03 2006, 08:57 PM
I admit various additions such as Selphie and her unique weapon did make a plus for me. But music is not a main facotr. Sure it is a positive one, but there is always the mute button >_> You can play the game without music, but without a proper storyline, its toast.

Basically, it didn't even have humour. The humour was left to such weak characters like Zell, who got very boring and annoying far too quickly.

In 7, we had an enitr level (Gold Saucer) to engauge in mini-games and the enfamous Chocobo Breeding side.

In 9, we had such characters like Zorn and Thorn who are classical examples of comedy. We also have stern characters like Beatrix who pawn Squall, even though she wasn't even the lead.

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As said before, they left it too late to introduce the main boss. As soon as Edea became more 'evil', they made her good!!?? The FMV at the end of Disc 1 was the perfect 'Evil Attack', yet they totally dis-reguarded their good work. Honestly, I think this was a toal mistake.

The card system I admit was better in my opinion than 9, because it felt better to get such cards like Carbuncle, Edea...etc because you knew they could do damage =d

Desi
Oct 03 2006, 09:48 PM
I hate using anything from FF7 as a example but here it goes.

Clamshells? is that supposed to be unique and funny?

Vincent had a squirtgun, Cloud a nail bat, Barret having a rocket punch arm, and the list goes on and on. Those are comedy in its own.

Exodus
Oct 03 2006, 10:58 PM
X-2 was the worst. It was a whorefest (no offense to those who like it). I hated the story. Only good thing about X-2 was the battle system. FFVIII, I liked the story, and loved the junction system.

And nice job making a thread ragging FFVIII. I applaud thee.

tails509
Oct 04 2006, 08:22 PM
^Its empty, so I kght as well attract some debating.

Although I admit X.2 is extremely appauling, I find its FMv and general battle system far more appealing. 8 had no real buzz to it, no unique qualities. Sure it had the Card Game, but 9 also did.

All 8 had that was unique to it was a very inneffective Junction System, useless GF abilite-equipping, a very '...' lead. <_ None of which are something to be boasted as one of the best features in an FF game.

S-r-ex
Nov 29 2006, 08:18 PM
gaah, VIII was adorable! fell in love with it by the garden, but the dollet llanding made me spend my next days with the game. didn't get completely used to the junctioning during the first time through and had to restart by adel, but got even more in love with it during the second time. I even had to download some of the music to my mp3, it is Nobou's best collection, undoubtly, though the seymour omnis battle may be his best single work...

and I do agree that X-2 was t3h w0r57 3v4h! God must have been by my side and scratched the disc before I even put it into my PS2 and got stuck just after the last boss in ch1. the FMV came to a complete hault two seconds in. and the battlemusic S-U-C-K-E-D!!! didn't get the feel of a battle at all. and just big-boobed girls as main characters, was it really intended to be a pervo-game?

L
Oct 05 2007, 08:36 PM
^Its empty, so I kght as well attract some debating.

Although I admit X.2 is extremely appauling, I find its FMv and general battle system far more appealing. 8 had no real buzz to it, no unique qualities. Sure it had the Card Game, but 9 also did.

Take into account the time that it was made, please. Of course the FMV was more appealing in FFX-2. FFS, at that time, graphics had come a long way. I actually found the FFX-2 battle system to be quite cumbersome and made it a chore to fight. Even if you change the ATB thing to "Wait" it won't wait while it's your turn unless you're in the item menu about to use an item or something... That was the saddest bathroom break I ever had. :'(

All 8 had that was unique to it was a very inneffective Junction System, useless GF abilite-equipping, a very '...' lead. <_ None of which are something to be boasted as one of the best features in an FF game.

Innefective? lol. GF's aren't useless. The majority of them just aren't useful to be summoned. The junction system is very effective. It's all about refining items and drawing magic an' shit. If you know what you're doing, you can make the game easy as pie. xD

Exodus
Oct 08 2007, 02:02 PM
Innefective? lol. GF's aren't useless. The majority of them just aren't useful to be summoned. The junction system is very effective. It's all about refining items and drawing magic an' shit. If you know what you're doing, you can make the game easy as pie. xD

This is the first and only time I'll ever agree with you. :cookie:

Junction system is far from ineffective. Anyone who really thinks that is just too slow to understand it. The summons in this game aren't for summoning. They're for making your characters Gods so you can pwn bosses in a few hits (the fight with Adel lasted about three hits from Squall. Two regular attacks, and one Lionheart. :cookie:)

Allen Walker
Oct 09 2007, 06:13 PM
I thought it was sort of lame for Squall to fall in love with Rinoa when he hated her in discs 1 and 2.

L
Oct 26 2007, 06:55 PM
Squall was lame, so it didn't really need to make sense. :cookie:

Pulse
Oct 28 2007, 05:49 PM
Most of you are missing the fact that Square developed squall under the pressure of his situations, whether the change in personality is believable or not it still does not mean it is a bad thing that he fell in love with rinoa. At the start of the game he is slashed across the face with a blade. Obviously he will be in pain and have some form of head injury which could alter his personality towards rinoa at the start of the game. He changes his oppinion of rinoa gradually, i believed it.

Josh

Sidderz
Oct 28 2007, 05:52 PM
I think all the character development with Squall was quite natural and believeable. I just don't really like Squall much so didn't care. ^^;

Terros
Oct 28 2007, 05:53 PM
I actually like FFVIII, a lot! THERE IS ONLY ONE THING I HATE! RINOA!! DIE WHY WON'T YOU DIE!!!???

Sidderz
Oct 28 2007, 06:11 PM
Oh god, don't mention Rinoa. Possibly my least favourite character from any FF game ever.

Pulse
Oct 28 2007, 06:26 PM
Why do you all 'hate' rinoa so?? Its like why people 'hate' aerith/aeris. I just dont see the problem?

Josh

Sidderz
Oct 28 2007, 07:01 PM
I don't hate Aeris. She was really love I thought, a genuine tragedy that she died. Riona on the other hand, is just so irritating it's almost unreal. She just changes from chidlish to serious way too randomly for my liking and just has an irritable personality.

I can't explain it, I just really didn't like her.

Pulse
Oct 28 2007, 10:37 PM
Rinoa also changes under the pressure of the situation, in her defense. I never said YOU hate aeris / aerith, it just sort of seemed the same. I understand that you may not relate to the character (rinoa) because if you think about what happened to her during the game, she was happy and childish at the start of the game, yet after being taken hostage, posessed twice, and falling in love does she become serious. The reason I think most people dislike this game is because it was such a drastic change from ff7, plus it had a lot to live up to with ff7. I personally think square did a brilliant job in creating believable and interesting MAIN characters, irvine, bleugh, but the rest yer, believable. lol

Josh

Xion
Oct 28 2007, 11:41 PM
oh please, FF8 worst FF? never, that is reserved for FF2 and everyone knows it.

Terros
Oct 28 2007, 11:48 PM
Rinoa is an embarrasment to ALL female video game characters, no to ALL women everywhere!

Pulse
Oct 29 2007, 12:18 AM
Why so? Explain your opinion! lol I dont see why everyone comes out with these 'witty' criticisms against rinoa but doesn't explain why. If you give a decent explanation people then I will accept your oppinion.

Josh

James Dean
Oct 29 2007, 12:56 AM
I agree with you Pulse.

Allen Walker
Oct 29 2007, 12:58 AM
I thought Rinoa was a good character. At least she developed :/

Naunen
Oct 29 2007, 01:24 AM
Don't like the game much myself. Character designs are boring and unreasonable (Selphie and her... "clothes") except for Rinoa's and Sorceress Edea's. The soundtrack's nice but not striking for certain towns (Galbadia, Esthar, Balamb Garden got annoying) but it was effective for any events involving the sorceresses. Gameplay got boring and the battles--so boring enough for me to start avoiding them (the battle music is dull except Man With The Machine Gun). The story sidetracked a lot but once the sorceresses came in plain view (end of disk one and all of disk four), it got exciting. I can only like the sorceress storyline. It's all I can remember vividly too.

Strawberry Armour
Oct 29 2007, 11:09 PM
I thought Rinoa was the best character in this game, she had a lot of background and grew in the story. The others didn't really progress as much as I wanted them too.

I've always noticed that with this game it's either a love/hate addiction. :mudkip:

estella
Oct 30 2007, 10:21 AM
Why do you all 'hate' rinoa so?? Its like why people 'hate' aerith/aeris. I just dont see the problem?

Josh

OMG :ohmy:
Now that you mention it, I've been opposed wherever I bring out the subject of Aerith and how much I hate her on other forums. The only companion I've found so far is the lovely Kira on this very forum. LOL

As far as I've read, Aerith is nothing less than a selfish failure who tainted the miracle of FF VII. =(
She sells flowers and asks Cloud to "protect" her. GAWD. Cloud's an ambitious soldier, NOT an archaeologist who saves endangered species. She doesnt have any royal blood, no assets to the team, and bugs Cloud with her life.
It seems to me that the only reason gamers respect her is because of her sacrifice on some holy charm. Geez, when I played FFX Yuna, Lulu and Rikku could earn that charm. So I dont think it's anything big....Sorry to Aerith fans, but Im giving reasons here. =D

I thought that was the end of it. In fact, I started to keep up with FFVII only from Advent Children. Yet she makes her reapprearance in Crisis Core T_T and rumors of a VII remake scares me out of my shoes. =(

Iunno, I think I naturally dislike cocky people who play God. She's a pile of useless sh*t...dont get me wrong Im not a CloTi. I dislike all pairings in 7

So sorry if my statements above seemed rude. Im not like that usually unless they're the topics I get touchy over. (Aerith and Lacus from Gundam Seed)

And cuz Pulse brought it up...lol blame him if I offended you! =D

j/k

I seriously dont mean to offend anyone. In fact, I wanna see how many actually agree/disagree with me. Pleaseee.

Pulse
Oct 30 2007, 05:54 PM
And cuz Pulse brought it up...lol blame him if I offended you! =D

j/k

I seriously dont mean to offend anyone. In fact, I wanna see how many actually agree/disagree with me. Pleaseee.

Please dont apologise for stating your oppinion. Its your oppinion and if someone doesn't have the same let them speak on it, then you can discuss your point like we are meant to do on a forum. lol

I think I might set up a discussion on why people dislike Aerith in the ffvii forums, as this topic is about why FFVIII is such a bad game, even though I have a different oppinion on the game.

Here is the link to the above mentioned thread, you can check it out here (http://forums.finalfantasy-xiii.net/showthread.php?p=49298#post49298).

Josh

Desi
Oct 30 2007, 08:16 PM
Why so? Explain your opinion! lol I dont see why everyone comes out with these 'witty' criticisms against rinoa but doesn't explain why. If you give a decent explanation people then I will accept your oppinion.

Josh

Rinoa:

This girl, Rinoa, who is asian (fuck what nomura thinks) is extremely bent on the idea that what she is doing is right. Nothing more then a child that wants to rebel against a parent that doesn't "love" her, so with her allowance buys herself a terrorist group.

Ok whatever, now lets get into her head. She leeches on to some boy she meets because of her co-dependent nature. He does not express himself to her much and secretly dislikes her. She wants to crack his shell because that is her nature, it is what drives her. He won't break and that causes her to like him more. He is a project for this girl.

Fast forward some and she has been kidnapped or something a couple times. Her "eyes on me" nature brings the developers to find out something to make her useful because up until that point she was anything but. And the way to make her useful they come up with is...a limit break only for players with little magic. Rinoa's stats all are pretty garbage and magic is pretty useless as is in the game to use offensively besides status attacks. So the player gets stuck with a over-sized paperweight to take up a party slot and thrown into the horrible story/romance 70% in the game.

Other then beating off to Rinoa is a failed character. Even then, I could masturbate to Reina/Lenna instead.

I think I naturally dislike cocky people play godYou may need to play that adventure again my dear. She was never cocky just never afraid. Most females in her position are scared, she wasn't but she also never acted like she was all that. Playing God part I don't understand. She never tried to pass judgment or bring intelligent life to the planet. Only plant her silly flowers.

Shadow Clone
Dec 03 2007, 05:23 PM
In my opinion ffviii is an ok game, not the best but buy no means the worst (unlike x-2).

The things I like are
1. The card mini game, u could play it for hour. but its a bugger when you lose the strongest cards.
2. Other than drawing the battle system was ok. I really like the limit break especialy Renzokuken and Zell moves that need button inputs to pull them off.
3.the junction system was cool once you understand how to use it.I like it because all stats are customizable if you collect the proper magic, however sats are lowered when magic is used in battle.
4.The facts that i a hard game to play and requires persistance to comlete (how ever i'v not completed it as of yet).
5. the cut scences. some of the best CG videos I'v ever seen (such as the opening scence).

The things i don't like
1. Collecting magic, egsecaily strong magic as you are vunurable the death from some really strong monsters.
2. Getting hold of the chocobos.
3. Hates the desert prison. Got on my nerves running up and down the floors.

over all the story was ok but nothing special and the characters never really stod out much.

Exire
Dec 04 2007, 02:17 AM
Rinoa's stat's really weren't bad at all when leveled up about on par with everyone else. Her HP was rather high. I leveled her up close to Squall's and her raw attack wasn't terribly far from his own. One thing that I find particularly annoying is how people will just post a topic saying they hate a FF game just for the sake of argument.

Do we see these topics for any other games, even other popular RPG's, like Dragon Quest, Shadow Hearts, Shin Megami Tensei? No, its just Final Fantasy because its Final Fantasy. So, just because it is a Final Fantasy, more or less, people nit pick over every little thing to dismantle the game and compare it to absolute garbage. Personally its my favorite since it was the first FF to give characters some real personality. I can't say exactly but it felt more real than any other FF did.

In any case, I don't nit pick over every little thing in a game. When I play games, I play them to enjoy them. If they are so bad that I can't even enjoy it a little, then it truly is a God awful game. I'm not saying certain games have their faults, all of them do, and FFVIII certainly does. It's my favorite FF, but it has its faults. If you hate it so much that you can't even play the game, then that's fine. Just seems that there might be a little too many focused things on FF, just because it is what it is. Not that I want to sound like a hippy, but I prefer to just enjoy the game and forget about the little 'unreal' things with the characters or whatever. We've all dealt with playing as cliche characters after all.

lara
Jan 28 2008, 08:34 AM
actually, i consider ff8 the 2nd best rpg just after anachronox (pc only)

Sidderz
Jan 28 2008, 08:41 AM
Second best ever? I wouldn't say it's THAT good. :cookie:

Thimien
Jan 28 2008, 09:11 AM
my fav RPG is FF7.. but i love Wild arms, and Breath of fire.

I most admit after the hype of FF7, when FF8 came out i played like night and day... and midway i started it up again... i liked it alot

Thimien
Jan 28 2008, 09:15 AM
my party in FF8 was, Irvine; Squall and Quitis... Zell was ok to. The rest were crap. Selphy had her Limit Breaks... like The End, or Rapture... but that was about it.

TBG07
Mar 19 2008, 06:46 PM
Of the classic PSX FF's FFVIII sucked ass... but I would take it over FFX-2 any day. IMO that was the worst FF.

BUTTCHEEKIES, OOH
Mar 19 2008, 08:46 PM
May as well while it's been bumped.

Personally I have this really odd conflicting appreciation for the game. I don't HATE it, nor do I love it. But I CERTAINLY won't call it the worst FF, it certainly had its majority of ups. And is, in overall, actually a pretty decent game with a nice take for something "different" at its time.

I always used to say the downs with the game was the storyline, but really the main problem is the characters (...or character :shifty:) which MAKE the storyline look much worse than it actually is. And there's also that poor characterization.

As said before, they left it too late to introduce the main boss. As soon as Edea became more 'evil', they made her good!!?? The FMV at the end of Disc 1 was the perfect 'Evil Attack', yet they totally dis-reguarded their good work. Honestly, I think this was a toal mistake. Lol, whut? When Edea was "bad", that was Ultimecia. Edea was manipulated by Ultimecia.

So technically Ultimecia was always there - if not upfront, but only by her working her magic by using puppets instead.

Like you mentioned, this game is complicated - and just with this quote I can see you clearly didn't really understand what was going on. Hell, I still don't get what Ultimecia was trying to achieve other than grasping Ellone's ability D': But at least get the shit straight before you start talking about "mistakes".

Junction system is far from ineffective. Anyone who really thinks that is just too slow to understand it. The summons in this game aren't for summoning. They're for making your characters Gods so you can pwn bosses in a few hits (the fight with Adel lasted about three hits from Squall. Two regular attacks, and one Lionheart. :cookie:)
QFT.

People who generally complain about the Junction System are those who don't/can't be arsed to understand it. Effectively it's a little bit complex, but nothing with the aid of a bit a logic can't be mastered, really. You can make your characters - literally - invincible. That was the only real draw back I found with the junction system, how you could practically morph your characters into Gods.

I don't hate Aeris. She was really love I thought, a genuine tragedy that she died. Riona on the other hand, is just so irritating it's almost unreal. She just changes from chidlish to serious way too randomly for my liking and just has an irritable personality.

I can't explain it, I just really didn't like her.
@_@ adfasfasdf I concur. Irritating she was, especially in my taste. The first words that pop in my head whenever I think of her are "Brat. Spoiled. Whiner". But that's only the half of it.

The real problem I had with Rinoa was that she was somewhat of a borderline Mary Sue. Mary Sue in the sense that she's this DEITY being which completely DWARFS everyone but Squall. Suddenly we forget why Irvine was even there to begin with, and everyone else for that matter. As if it's completely OK to suddenly not give toss if Zell was raped by an bull, or if Selphie got shredded into a blender so much did Quistis find her to be a wanking prat. Too much "importance/emphasis" is being emitted from Rinoa's Shimmering Godly self.

And omg she has wings. |:

So if you weren't fond of Rinoa to begin with...|: |: |:||||:::::::::::::|||||||:

...|:

And why do people have to call designs that ain't packed with bits of debris picked from the bin and piled on top of each other LAME? Simplicity works really well too. Honestly I think the cast in VIII has the best fashion sense out of all the casts in other FFs.

EDIT: I HAVE TO BLOODY STOP WRITING NOVELS. /wank

Hae Jung Shin
Mar 21 2008, 03:26 PM
Me loves ff8, it is the best ff I've played so far.
The plot, the story behind the sorceress, the dialogues (squall's lines^^), the environments, the soundtrack...I got addicted.The junction system was the only drawback, and the battles were a bit...confusing. I mean when I use junctioned magic the statictics go down, right? =_=
And why don't you get any experience after boss fights?
Lovely game either way.
:wub:
ps. What is wrong with selphies cloths? lots of people complain.

DuelHound07
Mar 21 2008, 08:46 PM
hands down ff9 was the most worst game in the franchise...the only thing that was good about was vivi....

Hakumi
Mar 24 2008, 01:59 AM
oh please, FF8 worst FF? never, that is reserved for FF2 and everyone knows it.

I believe this to be correct. While I've enjoyed every game in the series, I have to agree Final Fantasy II(The Japanese Verison) was the worst of all the core games in the series. A lot of people complain about the Junctioning system of FFVIII, but the leveling system in FF II was much more annoying. I think almost everyone would agree FF VIII had some of the best music of the series, and the production values at the time were some of the best in the industry.

I could understand why many fans dislike FF VIII, but I do not feel it is the worst game in the series. FF VIII suffers from being released between FFVII and FFIX.

Final Fantasy VII saw the introduction of many new fans that had very high expectations and limited understanding of what a Final Fantasy game was. Further more, older fans who were not excited about the new direction Final Fantasy VII had taken were even more put off by how Final Fantasy VIII continued the trend.

Final Fantasy IX was a collection of all the elements many of the classic fans loved with the older FF games.

When the new fans that got into the series with FFVII look back they tend to perfer games like FFVII and FFX.

The older fans tend to prefer FFIV, FFVI, and FFIX.

This leaves FFVIII as somewhat an "odd-game out" when it comes to the fans impressions of it, and the older fans seem to see it as the point when they lost their love to the series. Added to that is the fact it is largely overshadowed by FFVII, and FFVIII gets a bit of hate at times. Although you always have the FFVIII-Fan boys and girls every now and then.

Overall, I thought FF VIII was a good game, that tried some new things, some that worked, and some that didn't.

bradley
Mar 24 2008, 02:32 AM
I agree the leveling system in FFII was annoying.

I personally enjoyed FFVIII but it did have its faults. I kinda liked Rinoa.

Desi
Mar 24 2008, 03:00 AM
I think almost everyone would agree FF VIII had some of the best music of the series, and the production values at the time were some of the best in the industry.
Yes a lot would agree but they would be wrong. IX, XI, Tactics all have better music. VIII really only has four great pieces and Tactics duo of destruction is just made fantastic.

Kichi
Apr 08 2008, 10:48 PM
Well, I havn't played all of the Final Fantasy titles to date, but I've played from 5 up to XII, and although I wouldn't say VIII is the best of the series, it's definately not the worst.

There were a lot of things I enjoyed about VIII, namely the darker and more mature storyline. I loved the times you swap over and play as Laguna and co.

If you compare it to Crystal Chronices or XI you will see they are lacking far more than VIII is.

Desi
Apr 08 2008, 11:08 PM
If you compare it to Crystal Chronices or XI you will see they are lacking far more than VIII is.
If you would spend any decent amount of time with XI you would realize the bullshit you are spouting. Especially true with experience in the expansion packs. What the different jobs bring to the table and the wonderful history of the world, Vana d'iel. I just can't pick out the sarcasm in your post. Hopefully my detector is just broken.

AT23
Apr 08 2008, 11:16 PM
It's either he's not into MMOs and grinding or like you just mentioned, hasn't even bothered to play it or didn't get very far. You can't even really get a feel for the game with just one lvl 75 job either, nor if you haven't really participated in higher tier activity. I love vana d'iels rich history and storylines.

Eidolon Sniper
Apr 11 2008, 07:17 AM
GAAAH lost my novella-esque reply! ToT anyway, both games - FF VII and FF VIII - had their ups and downs in terms of storyline or gameplay. What I didn't like about FF VIII is the Junction system and Draw system, and its GFs, and the "love story" that it has, and how a guy like Squall can instantly fall in love with Rinoa in a span of 2 discs with him annoyed at her most of the time in those discs. I would probably expound on them later, since right now I'm at work, and if I am able to. >_<

trevvanl
Apr 22 2008, 08:18 PM
FFVIII is one of; if not; THE best Final Fantasy and I think it was pretty amazing when I first played it. Sure, it did feel as fun as FFVII but the story was loads more engrossing.

I thought everything was great with the game, the card system, the weapon upgrades, GF with Abilities etc. the only problems where the completely ridicolious EXP system, where 1000 points is needed for any level, espicially when you find monsters which give you 2000 per battle of Island Closest To Hell. The other problem, oh yeah! The whole Space scene was boring and a bit tedious, catching Rinoa was so annoying that for that reason alone I never use her (oh and shes rubbish too!).

Theres loads of good points to outway these minors like, the music excelled above the other Final Fantasies, the bosses were cool and DOLLET, The Landing, that made the game! Some other stuff too.. like Selphie's weapon which was a clamshell on the end of some sticks, cool huh? Oh and lets not be forgetting Laguna, genious character.

VERDICT (lol): Square tried to change the style of FF to make it different from samey stlye of previous games they'd made. People moaned, people whined.. so they gave us the boring-in-comparison Final Fantasy IX for punishment to show us how good VIII really was :D



Odd, To cement the ideas of why you hate it? Why waste the time when you could be playing such awesome games like 'its-completely-different-from-the-original!!' Kingdom Hearts II :p oh no, Goofy's in trouble again..

Wow, that was really poorly written.
I have played final fantasy four times now, and love many aspects about it. I love triple triad, the engaging story, the gfs, the junction system, and regard it as the second best final fantasy ever! Only final fantasy x surpasses it! A great game.

ceru
Aug 08 2008, 03:26 AM
I absolutely loved VIII. I felt that the characters were more realistic than any other characters period. Squall took what was undeveloped in cloud, and developed a realistic personality. I am probably alone, but I did like Rinoa along with her flaws. She had her heart set int he right place, she was just overly emotional about things sometimes.

The only real problem with the game was, yes, magic was tied to your stats, but at the same time there was no more MP to limit you. So it was a win lose.

I felt that the storyline int he game was probably one of the most unique and original storylines in a game I have ever played.

IBeatMyMeat
Aug 08 2008, 03:31 AM
yeah MP was only prob i ever had with it. made me tend to ignore all use of magic cept cure type spells just cause i could junction magic to everyone to make em do max melee dmg. plus just toss aura on squall and poof insta 19 attacks with LionHeart <.< onshotted final form ultamecia with it xD

VeraAlexander
Aug 08 2008, 04:05 AM
I adored Final Fantasy VIII, i loved Squall i'm alot like him when it comes to his way of thinking and i really connected with him. After playing that game i learned something, friends are important and that it is not good to be alone in life. Trust me when i say this, no matter how much it hurts to lose someone close to you and no matter the pain you feel, it is better to have someone who is there for you, who you can talk too than to be alone and wandering in the shadows, to be alone and in the shadows is much more painful than anything life can throw at you. I can only say that i was truly happy after i beat that game happier than i had ever been in my life and to this day it was the second happiest moment of my life because that was the day i realized that i was not alone in this world, it's sad i know to be that connected with a game but the story really moved me and i am better for it.

Sorry and please don't flame me for what i have said.

Darling Heartilly
Aug 08 2008, 04:09 AM
I prefer not to number things, but FFVIII is definetely my favourite. It's not perfect, none of them are, but I enjoyed it more than the other FF's. God, I know it was mainly connected to sleep loss (I couldn't put it down) but from the space scene to the orphanage had me bawling. I swear nothing else has ever done that to be. I think my point here is that I liked the story? Oooh, adored the characters.

Squall rocked, his lines were ace; you can't go wrong with sarcasm. I also loved Rinoa (bet you didn't see that coming), I can never say why I like people, I don't have types. But one thing that struck me about her is that she seems the most realistic. She wasn't all 'military tactics' and used to fighting. Most people from the real world (be honest) wouldn't behave much different than she did in the game. And she was the kind of person I'd like in real life.

Oh, and ANYbody who says she had crap stats, CHECK AGAIN. She has at least the second best stats in the game and 'Angel Wing' fucking rocks. It's like cheating! I don't have to do any thing in the Ultimecia fight, super boosted Angel Wing Rinny does meteor each turn, 9999 X 15. You can't lose.

I'm aware that this post barely makes any sense, so I might come back and edit it later if I can be arsed. I'm being very insomniac-y lately AND I just dyed my hair blonde.

Hae Jung Shin
Aug 08 2008, 10:37 AM
Oh man, yes, the game is amazing, it took me some time to figure out how to use that junction thing (it was my first RPG >_>) well how to play it actually.
It was annoying that you didn't get EXP after the boss fights btw.
The game itself is pure magic, never before have I spent so many hours playing ;_;
Definitaly my beloved ff part.

ceru
Aug 08 2008, 11:59 AM
Oh man, yes, the game is amazing, it took me some time to figure out how to use that junction thing (it was my first RPG >_>) well how to play it actually.
It was annoying that you didn't get EXP after the boss fights btw.
The game itself is pure magic, never before have I spent so many hours playing ;_;
Definitaly my beloved ff part.

Exp didn't matter, AP did. I was annoyed back in the day too, until I found out that leveling up your characters didn't actually make you stronger, because enemies leveled up with you.

balthierxashe
Aug 12 2008, 04:57 AM
I actually liked the gameplay a lot. I have to say that I found the Junction system ingenious and rather easy to learn...but a lot of people that have complained about it to me said it was too complicated, so I agree that the reason people don't like it is because they didn't grasp it to its full potential.

Rinoa annoyed me a lot the first couple of times, but after awhile I got used to her. I think that all the characters were more realistic than any we had seen so far (although in III/VI, whatever you want to call it, I think some of the characters were realistic). The happy go lucky girl actually experiences tragedy and lets it bring her down, OMG, no way! Real emotions and reactions to tragedy and shock!

I don't understand why people are so obsessed with VII. Don't get me wrong, I liked it a lot. I just don't understand the obsession.

I think the music in VIII was the best.

The graphics of IX really bothered me, and the gameplay wasn't my favorite. I didn't care much about the characters either.

Anyway, I think that VIII was a good game. At the very least, it's nowhere near the worst FF.

Zezlar
Sep 10 2008, 11:00 PM
You find FFVIII the worst? OMFG are you INSANE? The story was really good, and just because draw was different doesn't make it bad or hard. Squall is the best main character in the FF series yet. At least he doesnt cry like a pussy saying "I need to be forgiven *tears*"

The GFs were fun and there were alot to find and mess around with. Also the card system was a great way to take some time off from the main story, I have every card in the deck on my PS1 memory card :)

Sorry, but VIII is my favorite :P hehe.

I think FF2 was the worst, too easy and the final boss was just dumb.

conected87
Sep 10 2008, 11:12 PM
I can't really say because i haven't played all FF's but from the ones i've played(1,6,7,8,9,10,12) i'd have to say 10 not because of being the worst in story or other things, but just because of the final boss, a freaking ball with legs.