View Full Version : Who do you think Aerith loves more: Zack or Cloud?
OmiVersusXIV
Mar 19 2008, 04:15 AM
SO who do you think aerith loves more Cloud or Zack??? personally i think its Cloud because you can see in Advent Children she has lines that kinda makes you think that she loves him more or cares for him more but maybe when crisis core comes out we will see if she loves zack more. Any other thoughts?
Vanisher
Mar 19 2008, 04:30 AM
i think she loves both for the same.
hmm this should be a poll
OmiVersusXIV
Mar 19 2008, 04:40 AM
yeah i was planning it to be a poll but idk how to put one up
AT23
Mar 19 2008, 04:43 AM
Aerith was never meant for Cloud. She fell in love with Zack, but since Zack died it was never meant to be. However, it was fulfilled in the form of
Cloud, since Cloud inherits Zack's memories and his everything, including the Buster sword.
People may understand better why Aerith was set up by the developers to be killed, and both the most important influences and closest friends sacrificed themselves to save Cloud. Aerith was more of a close friend, someone who changed his life, guided him when he needed a direction. They had a special bond, but it wasn't love.
Since Aerith died, whether there may have been a future between the Cloud and herself is now non-existant. Cloud is as dense as any guy is, and even moreso when it is right in his face. Yes, Tifa *should* be the one for him. However, that is not the case also.
I stand by the fact that Aerith loved Zack for a partner, but loved Cloud as a friend as well.
Vanisher
Mar 19 2008, 05:10 AM
remembering crisis core scenes i changed my mind.
its zack :P.
OmiVersusXIV
Mar 19 2008, 05:17 AM
remembering crisis core scenes i changed my mind.
its zack :P.
which scenes were those??//
Desi
Mar 19 2008, 05:23 AM
I don't know about that. Moral Crysis really puts her unnamed sugerdaddy above both of those losers.
Naunen
Mar 19 2008, 05:33 AM
I'm gonna alter this thread a bit. :P I think she cares more for Zack based on Crisis Core.
I'd like to say I don't care cause I hate the *****, but so I don't get a spanking I'm gonna have to say Zack as well after having played Crisis Core. She didn't seem as serious with Cloud, more playful in a way and...well motherly almost. I'm sure she loved him, but she probably wasn't in love with him.
OmiVersusXIV
Mar 19 2008, 06:09 AM
I'd like to say I don't care cause I hate the *****, but so I don't get a spanking I'm gonna have to say Zack as well after having played Crisis Core. She didn't seem as serious with Cloud, more playful in a way and...well motherly almost. I'm sure she loved him, but she probably wasn't in love with him.
Well i think we can all agree that aerith loved cloud but their is still debate if she was in love with him.
estella
Mar 19 2008, 11:07 AM
I'd like to say I don't care cause I hate the *****, .
I love you :wub::wub:
Well, there is no debate since the case has closed right after she *died*
And just so that this post will not be undermined as flamming, I would like to add that she has shown neither of them respect by two-timing the two, actually not simultaneously. But it is evident that she got over Zack quick enough to prove that there were no true feelings directed towards him.
Also, I wouldnt necessarily count CC since the whole scenario was slapped in merely to shut so called Aerith-fans up, as to make up for the "poignant" effects of her death upon many loyal "hearts" and her "sad" tragedy.
Hence, I'd say Cloud though a large portion of it came from motherly approaches apart from the occasionally flirtatious comments ("Protect me Cloud"). But I agree with AT23 that there was a bond between them.
Allen Walker
Mar 19 2008, 11:53 AM
Crisis Core makes it obvious on who Aerith loved.
Desi
Mar 19 2008, 12:14 PM
And just so that this post will not be undermined as flamming, I would like to add that she has shown neither of them respect by two-timing the two, actually not simultaneously. But it is evident that she got over Zack quick enough to prove that there were no true feelings directed towards him.
Please stop posting. Got over that fool quick? There was a five year gap between Crisis Core and VII.
storm_owl7
Apr 03 2008, 03:36 AM
I think she was in love with Zack because she often said things like she wanted to spend more time together, they built a wagon of flowers, she wrote him 89 letters which 88 of them were given to Tseng so that he would give them to Zack...I mean, Cloud did get a date but as she says in the original at some point, she said Cloud reminded her of Zack...so maybe she did find friendship with Cloud but she was closer also because he reminded her of someone she did fall in love with but died...and after hearing nothing from him for 4 years.
Kajika-kun
May 13 2008, 04:44 AM
Cloud. In 'the maiden who travels the planet' it is stated that she loved Cloud more than Zack.
Strifer
May 13 2008, 10:01 AM
I vote none but I will say that and I know that Aeris said something about: "He looks like him but in a way something I like Cloud more" She said something like that about. Thta was because she finds Cloud better. Anyway I think she likes them as a good as both.
Allen Walker
May 13 2008, 12:49 PM
Cloud. In 'the maiden who travels the planet' it is stated that she loved Cloud more than Zack.
Maiden is so contradictory that Square doesn't count it as part of the compilation.
Kajika-kun
May 17 2008, 02:37 AM
Maiden is so contradictory that Square doesn't count it as part of the compilation.
I apologize, I thought it was canon.
chocoboxxjp
Jun 27 2008, 05:21 AM
I'd say Zack.
If you played Crisis Core, you would know why.
In FFVII, there are really not many romantic interactions between Aeris and Cloud, in fact, there could be none depending on how you play the game. Aeris did have romantic feelings for Cloud probably because he initially reminded her of Zack. Cloud was very upset about Aeris' death, but so were the other characters in the game, so was I and most of the people I know who have played the game! Of course you'd be upset if a close friend were killed right before your eyes while you had a chance to save him/her but failed to. If that happend to me, it would be on my conscience forever, too.
On the other hand, in Crisis Core there are so many things that suggest their (Aeris and Zack) mutual feeling for each other.
Zack buying Aeris a ribbon which she wears after all those years.
Zack building Aeris flower wagons and helping her sell flowers.
Aeris calling Zack and writing him all those letters.
Zack trying to get back to Midgar to meet Aeris knowing Shinra is searching for him.
Very romantic, if you ask me.
Zack even asked Cloud to take care of Aeris before he died. I think that's what upset Cloud even more about Aeris' death - even though he was still amnesic at the time Aeris died, in his deep subconscious he knew that he failed not only Aeris but also Zack.
aldo
Jun 27 2008, 06:39 AM
Maiden is so contradictory that Square doesn't count it as part of the compilation.
LOLZ PROOFZ YOU BIAS CLOTI :wub:
Doesn't matter who she loves. She's dead. ^_^
pupucachi
Jun 27 2008, 02:16 PM
Although she said she loved Cloud more than Zack, I still want Aerith and Zack to be together. He did a lot of things for her in Crisis Core... But they are dead now... T___T
Well it's not bad, because they are together :D
Cathryn
Jun 27 2008, 06:06 PM
IN MAKO HEAVEN :cathryn:
Haruka no Bachi
Jul 16 2008, 12:50 PM
Hm... I don't know, where Aerith should have said "that she loves cloud" ... O_o
Oke... maybe just my memory... but I want Aerith x Zack >.<
Zack and Aerith are the perfect pairing (next to Lucrecia and Vincent ^___^), and in Crisis Core both look so... normal in the way they handle each other :lol:
I don't know how to say, but Cloud is a bit to quiet for Aerith I think, and so I also think she loved Zack, not Cloud.
Haruka
Genesis Hatake
Jul 16 2008, 12:55 PM
you can tell in crisis core that Aerith was in love with zack, but as said earlier on she had loved cloud because she may have reminded her a lot about zack, but she knows it wasnt zack, and also loving cloud as a close friend not in a relationship sort of love
donsaemo
Jul 27 2008, 08:00 PM
"I'll live for you as well..."
and so he did,acting like Zack and "loving" Aerith.But i think he loved Tifa...from back when they were kids.On my opinion "loving" Aerith was just a false will,created to live Zacks life as well...as for Aerith,i think is just as Genesis Hatake said. (http://finalfantasy-xiii.net/forums/member.php?u=1305)
At least....it's what i think...
Josh
Aug 05 2008, 01:01 AM
I definitely think that Aerith loved Zack more than she did Cloud, in fact there isn't really anything to suggest that Aerith loved Cloud; or that Cloud loved Aerith. I just think that Cloud held Aerith dear to himself. We all know that the real love is between Cloud and Tifa! ;)
DarkCloud
Aug 06 2008, 02:31 PM
Zack, of course.
I definitely think Zack because of Crisis Core and now they are both dead.
It only fits. ^_^
balthierxashe
Aug 12 2008, 05:06 AM
All the evidence points to Zack, in my opinion. Everything with Cloud wasn't real...after all, he was behaving as if he was Zack, trying to live his life so to speak
Vaan009
Aug 12 2008, 06:10 AM
In my opinion Zack because Cloud was like a rebound that's all.
Lucy
Aug 28 2008, 08:53 PM
Zack of course...She may hav fallen for Cloud cus of the similarities but nothing compared to what it was with Zack!
Shadow Clone
Aug 28 2008, 09:06 PM
yeah aerith loves zack, i dont get why people r so for aeirth and cloud.
conected87
Aug 28 2008, 11:20 PM
I think she loves Cloud not only because of FFVII and AC but because of how the games and movie convey the feelings of the characters, which is obviously based on how Japanese express the feelings of love to themselves, also if you guy's do a little research on the internets you'll see that it's obvious that Aerith loves Cloud.
and my reasons:
1- In the date scene she says she wants to meet the real Cloud, which means that she knew that Cloud wasn't just a Zack clone.
2- "Maiden who travels the planet" is official not only because it was printed in a "OFFICIAL" Ultimania guide, it was also never told that it wasn't unofficial, and it was approved as canon by SQUARE so i don't know why people say it isn't.
3- From interviews to actual japanese people in which all of them unanimously say that Clorith is the official pairing, and some of them were tifa fans and Zack fans, even they say it's Clorith all the way.
4- Even on other games and the movie it's Cloud an Aerith, like:
“FF TACTICS ----> Cloud and Aerith together
FF7-their story…they even have a date
CREDITS KH1 ----> Cloud and Aerith together
KH2 ----> Cloud and Aerith Promise
CREDITS AC ----> Aerith alone and Cloud driving off to see her
5- Even after playing CC i think it's Clorith because what i see in CC it's the story of a first love between two people, yeah Zack died and he said for Cloud to take care of Aerith but that doesn't mean that Cloud only liked her because of that and in FFVII and AC that is quite obvious.
6- In the original draft of the game, Barret, Aeris and Cloud were the only playable charcters! That says it right there, Tifa was added to the game later while Aeris was in it since the start.
7- Aeris is the one paired up with Cloud in all the artwork, there's even one of him with Nanaki, but none of him with Tifa.
8- Aeris is Cloud's default date, not Tifa. You have to go out of your way to be mean to Aeris to date Tifa.
9- talking about first loves like Zack was Aerith's first love we can also say that Tifa was Cloud's first love but that didn't stop him from falling in love with Aerith and Aerith with him.
10- Zerith is a canon relationship, but in the past... just like RinoaxSeifer. The FFVII Compilation Ultimania even says that Zack was Aerith's first love, not her only love. Even Nojima implies that he regards Zack and Aerith's relationship as nothing more than a crush.
Well this is what I think and i was a Cloti fan but after seeing AC and playing CC and reading what was on the internet and forums and all the discussions I think even more strongly that Aerith's true love is Cloud
Click this link it explains all:
http://www.clerith.com/Menu.htm
InquietusSomnus
Aug 30 2008, 02:23 AM
Cloud. In 'the maiden who travels the planet' it is stated that she loved Cloud more than Zack.
Actually, she was only teasing Zack. She was teasing him on how was nice to people, especially girls. She never said that she "loved him moer thatn Zack." That's both of their personalities: they're playful and tease people. Otherwise, it's Zack. Who cares? They're dead and together in the Lifestream. :D
conected87
Aug 30 2008, 09:00 AM
Actually, she was only teasing Zack. She was teasing him on how was nice to people, especially girls. She never said that she "loved him moer thatn Zack." That's both of their personalities: they're playful and tease people. Otherwise, it's Zack. Who cares? They're dead and together in the Lifestream. :DInquietusSomnus, this is what she says in Chapter 1 of MwTtP:
"Aerith was in even greater pain when she thought about Cloud. She also had good feelings towards him. At first, she thought he somehow had some similarities to her first love. Even so, his looks, voice and personality weren't similar and he also made her think of him as a mysterious person... But it soon didn't matter. She loved him much more than her first love. Cloud was her hero and he couldn’t get away from danger. She saw him as someone full of confidence, cool and had the impression that he would disappear in an instant if she took her eyes off him. She wanted to stay by his side forever if she could. She really wanted to."
As we can she doesn't say it to Zack, she doesn't tease him, she thinks that, and we see that she truly loved Cloud. if you never read MwTtP here's a link to it:
http://one.xthost.info/ffwebnovel/
Cilvia
Aug 30 2008, 10:07 AM
FLOWERS!!!!!!!11!!!11!!
nut srsly, when i was playing crisis core i didnt feel her love to him. Maybe she liked to spend time with him, see his face but... She didnt really be so sad when he died. I mean, after the game you see her going along the road with a basket full of flowers and she was smiling. She doesnt look like a miserable girl, who has lost her reason for living...
And what about cloud? He loved her, not she.
Flowing Ice
Sep 03 2008, 08:10 PM
Zack for sure. He was her first love, and besides..Their pairing makes the most sense.
I don't care what Square' intentions were with the open ended choice, Cloud/Tifa is the ultimate canon, since they were falling for each other first.
I believe any feelings beyond companions/good friends Cloud gained for Aeris, were purely based on Zack's words to him about hearing of her..Remember, Cloud lived ion as Zack for awhile. So to speak.
Giuggiosa
Sep 04 2008, 03:29 PM
Uhm... I think she loves Zach deeply...and then he died. So when she meet Cloud, maybe she's starting to fall in love again and to go on with her life. But her thoughts and love are for Zach at first.
Brandonheat187
Sep 04 2008, 05:38 PM
I almost never get into love stories,but when i played crisis core(i never played ff7 for ps1) i thought that the relationship between Zack and aerith was the most amazing story ever implemented into any videogame or movie. How they acted with eachother, it was pure, their relationship was based on what every relationship should be based on. They just fit together. If any human could dream up better characters and story like the story in final fantasy crisis core i would not believe it. To make me, a 15 year old, actually care so much about two people who don't exist and motivate me to go and find a girl like aertih its crazy the creators have amazing talent>_<.Ps. Because of a video game i have waited till i found a girl who i could have a pure relationship with like aerith and Zach and i have met Lidia we have been together for 6 months wow:D.
Devious
Sep 05 2008, 01:44 AM
I don't want her to love Cloud. D= Screw you Aerith, just cuz you can't hold on to your man doesn't mean you can steal Tifa's.
Naunen
Sep 05 2008, 07:59 AM
I don't want her to love Cloud. D= Screw you Aerith, just cuz you can't hold on to your man doesn't mean you can steal Tifa's.
----Well... We can want but we can't really deny considering the ample amount of evidence of love.
olorin818
Sep 05 2008, 09:36 AM
the game doesnt show this really very much but I think it was Cloud actually,
Naunen
Sep 05 2008, 09:42 AM
the game doesnt show this really very much but I think it was Cloud actually,
----You obviously weren't looking enough for signs and evidence. Dx No offense but it did show a lot. Just gotta think figuratively and out of the box.
olorin818
Sep 05 2008, 09:45 AM
it was just my impression after playing the game, I dont wont to look that indeep into the story and I might be wrong. but still this is my impression
Naunen
Sep 05 2008, 09:49 AM
it was just my impression after playing the game, I dont wont to look that indeep into the story and I might be wrong. but still this is my impression
----It's just not elaborate enough as just a post. But if you just voted on the poll and just decided to make clear your vote as a post, it's no problem. It's just that this thread is full of discussion.
SquallEX
Sep 15 2008, 05:39 PM
Nevermind who Aerith love.Cloud got Tifa..Remember?
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