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OmiVersusXIV
Mar 28 2008, 04:15 AM
Ive done some observation and have come to this conclusion and I'm basing the Star wars characters from episode 4 A New Hope.

Alright-

Balthier and Han Solo- a captians who fly very fast ships and have huge bountys on there head from other pilots.


Fran and Chewbacca- co-pilots to the captains and very close friends.


Vaan and R2D2- we start out with them and we get his point of view in the storybut is not the main character.


Penelo and C3P0- The voice of reason and the kind ones who we also get their point of view as well.


Basch and Obi-Wan- people who were seen as traitors to the empires of their series and the wise ones and were once great heroes.


Lady Ashe and Leia- Princess who have lost alot and are great leaders of their rebellions.

so what does everyone think?????

Cactus Girl
Mar 28 2008, 04:30 AM
Ive done some observation and have come to this conclusion and I'm basing the Star wars characters from episode 4 A New Hope.

Alright-

Balthier and Han Solo- a captians who fly very fast ships and have huge bountys on there head from other pilots.

Fran and Chewbacca- co-pilots to the captains and very close friends.

Vaan and R2D2- we start out with them and we get his point of view in the storybut is not the main character.

Penelo and C3P0- The voiceof reasnand the kind one who we also get their point of view as well.

Basch and Obi-Wan- people who were traitors to the empires of their series and the wise ones and were once great heroes.

Lady Ashe and Leia- Princess who have lost alot and are great leaders of their rebellions.

so what does everyone think?????

Fran wears stilettos. And she wears a thong. Those two things make her fundamentally different from Chewbacca.

OmiVersusXIV
Mar 28 2008, 04:32 AM
Fran wears stilettos. And she wears a thong. Those two things make her fundamentally different from Chewbacca.

no im talking about personality traits and roles.

Cactus Girl
Mar 28 2008, 04:49 AM
no im talking about personality traits and roles.

I know :P

But seriously, and interestingly, I heard a theory that R2-D2 and C-3PO were meant to be lovers, and you said Vaan is like R2 and Penelo's like C-3PO. Another possible link. ^_^

OmiVersusXIV
Mar 28 2008, 04:53 AM
I know :P

But seriously, and interestingly, I heard a theory that R2-D2 and C-3PO were meant to be lovers, and you said Vaan is like R2 and Penelo's like C-3PO. Another possible link. ^_^

Yeah i know and the thing about them is that in the movie you get their point of view and how they are just along for the ride same thing with vaan and penelo.

Whiplash
Mar 28 2008, 06:13 AM
I think I remember seeing some very amusing analysis of XII drawing similar parallels to the ones you mentioned. Star Wars' influence has become very clear in the games these days, you can tell they're fans.

AT23
Mar 28 2008, 06:25 AM
I must say this is one of the most brilliant posts I've read in a long time, I did not see this at all. While I laughed my arse off and scared my roommates off at the R2D2 and C3PO comment, it's so true... they're both annoying and chatty/chirpy, Vaan and Penelo... gosh that's scary, but I already thought FFXII was too much like Starwars once I started the game and saw a heavey involvement with airship armies that looked like starships and star destroyers.

Desi
Mar 28 2008, 06:45 AM
Die in a fire.

FFIV's main cast borrows heavily (read: stolen) from Le Morte d'Arthur for fucks sake.

OmiVersusXIV
Mar 28 2008, 06:52 AM
I must say this is one of the most brilliant posts I've read in a long time, I did not see this at all. While I laughed my arse off and scared my roommates off at the R2D2 and C3PO comment, it's so true... they're both annoying and chatty/chirpy, Vaan and Penelo... gosh that's scary, but I already thought FFXII was too much like Starwars once I started the game and saw a heavey involvement with airship armies that looked like starships and star destroyers.

thanks for the comment on the analysis.

elephant_lost
Mar 28 2008, 08:26 AM
There was a review on the game that said pretty much the same thing
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OmiVersusXIV
Mar 28 2008, 07:00 PM
There was a review on the game that said pretty much the same thing
:cookie:

yeah i think it was a gamespot review from a long time ago but it didnt really focus on any particular character, all it said was that they are like star wars characters but not any particular one.

AT23
Mar 28 2008, 11:05 PM
Not sure if you were directing your comment at me Desi, but we're talking about FFXII here, not FFIV. Nice try buddy.

Desi
Mar 29 2008, 02:34 AM
Not sure if you were directing your comment at me Desi, but we're talking about FFXII here, not FFIV. Nice try buddy.not you monkey butt. Saying that FF's before have dipped in borrowed similarities with other entertainment materials before. Pretty easy to grasp.

Naunen
Mar 29 2008, 08:28 AM
Not sure if you were directing your comment at me Desi, but we're talking about FFXII here, not FFIV. Nice try buddy.

----Fucking A, AT23. Do you have a problem with him and always thinking that he's talking to you? What he said was true anyway and it is relevant to Final Fantasy XII in relation to observation and inspiration from other media. ~_~

BUTTCHEEKIES, OOH
Mar 29 2008, 04:12 PM
^Naunen wtf? He thought Desi was directing his comment at him but Desi wasn't, end of. Simple misinterpretation.

Anyway following up on Desi, I think just about any media has dipped in and borrowed ideas from elsewhere. Just a question of having a really large library of resources.

Presto
Jun 23 2008, 02:52 AM
Ah, good analyzing there. :) Nothing wrong with being influenced, though. As long as it helps them makes good games, that's all that counts.

Whiplash
Jun 23 2008, 09:45 AM
Being influenced is fine, everyone is influenced by something. Being pretty much identical? Bad. Although Star Wars itself was pretty much The Hidden Fortress with lasers.

Blanc
Jul 31 2008, 08:10 PM
This was one of the first things that I noticed. Balthier is way too much like han Solo (SP?)

lonelee89
Aug 16 2008, 03:41 PM
haha can't gav any comment on dis borrowing here n there mayb created ff12
but i like the architectured design n air ship

luriana
Aug 16 2008, 04:07 PM
In some games of the series, there's always two guys named Biggs and Wedge, a homage to the X-Wing pilots Biggs Darklighter and Wedge Antilles from Star Wars, such as FFVI (helping Terra to get an Esper), FFVII (Avalanche members), FFVIII (Galbadian soldiers), in FFX and X-2, they're guards at a blitzball stadium... and so on.

olorin818
Aug 16 2008, 05:41 PM
as someones said already its been noticed, ff12 was like japanese sw, but what troubling me more is the fact that ff13 is going in the same direction. The whole design of a game.

Whiplash
Aug 17 2008, 03:53 AM
Design-wise yes, but we haven't seen enough of the characters to know if we can draw the same conclusions and it's the similarity of characters that bothers me the most.