The Trailer music

[Kitmitsu]

Well an FFXIII blog on LiveJournal found out that the song is definitely Latin and they're trying to write out all the lyrics. I do wonder how soo many people know Latin though. :blink:

http://community.livejournal.com/ff_xiii/18431.html#cutid1

"omnia divident tragoedia coram amando(um) quae"

Ah so she wasn't saying DVD >_> almost understood one word there...

[Desi]

They teach it in several schools around where I live. My cousin used to learn but then the school dropped the course. I have some books that teach Latin as well but i fail at it.

I'm going to keep track of that site though.

[VersusXIII]

I love the song, it almost made me cry (it is really moving).
I also was looking into learning latin. it sounds beautiful
(i'm such a softheart though,lols)

[Zeta_Stryker]

lol If you understand latin. Then you'd be able to fully understand what she was singing.

[omnislash1kid]

so it's latin huh? =D

[Desi]

pretty much. Since most FF music that contains lyrics are in Latin or English.

[Kitmitsu]

pretty much. Since most FF music that contains lyrics are in Latin or English.

Except for Suteki de na from FFX and the Gackt songs in Dirge of Cerberus

They seem to have given up on the translation...can anyone else help?

[Yin&Yang]

I love the song, it almost made me cry (it is really moving).
I also was looking into learning latin. it sounds beautiful
(i'm such a softheart though,lols)

can someone who makes sense of it PLEASE give us a bit info about the songs meaning - it wouldn't have to be precise. i just want to know is there anything about the "mr. no socks" or the plot hidden in it.
Personally - when I first heard it I thought :blink: because I expected something loud and harsh but after hearing it many times it started to fit with it. Maybe all the action movies have brain washed me and I think "bang bang BOOM" is the only way.

[Lady-15]

SO THEY WERE SINGING huh for me I think it wasn't maching with the scenes ـ__ـ

[Misschoco]

When i done the translation of the song this is what i got (bear with me im no latin expert)

From the first verse

te-they/thyself
2nd word unknown
et-and/also
liberi-Children?
5th word unknown
faciunt-(could mean either)>>commit/cause/create
Numquam-at no time/never
excit-send for/summon

2nd verse

Omnium-everything?
dividit-seperate/divide
Tragoedia-Tragedy
prorum-clear? (when i listened again i thought it was said as coram instead which means face to face or you could say against)
amando-send away/banish
quae-(can mean either)>>which, what, that e.g WHAT cannot be avoided must be endured.

3rd verse( this verse is sung when versus guy starts walking down stairs and soldiers get ready to shoot)

Et-and
nocte-night
perdere-destroy
tua-your

^^^And to destroy at night

And one word i thought i heard before he summoned his swords was omniver which means bearing everything.

[Jernas]

When i done the translation of the song this is what i got (bear with me im no latin expert)

From the first verse

te-they/thyself
2nd word unknown
et-and/also
liberi-Children?
5th word unknown
faciunt-(could mean either)>>commit/cause/create
Numquam-at no time/never
excit-send for/summon

2nd verse

Omnium-everything?
dividit-seperate/divide
Tragoedia-Tragedy
prorum-clear? (when i listened again i thought it was said as coram instead which means face to face or you could say against)
amando-send away/banish
quae-(can mean either)>>which, what, that e.g WHAT cannot be avoided must be endured.

3rd verse( this verse is sung when versus guy starts walking down stairs and soldiers get ready to shoot)

Et-and
nocte-night
perdere-destroy
tua-your

^^^And to destroy at night

And one word i thought i heard before he summoned his swords omniver which means bearing everything
OMG!! that's awsome the last sentenc is just..........***faint*** KYA!!! WHAT A darkness!!

[Lifrasthir]

Except for Suteki de na from FFX and the Gackt songs in Dirge of Cerberus

They seem to have given up on the translation...can anyone else help?

They used to have the translations on dirgeofcerberus.net......Yup ^_^ They still do. They also have Longing translations. But I don't know how accurate they are cause I don't speak Japanese.

http://www.dirgeofcerberus.net/ff7dc/information/ost.php

[Fenristh]

He means the Versus trailer music, and this thread is quite old. We have it now.

[Lifrasthir]

He means the Versus trailer music, and this thread is quite old. We have it now.

Well then I guess I should do more exploring on this site before I post anything like this back up. ^_^ I didn't look at how old it was. Heheh, my bad.

[Mad_Hatter]

The lyric is so sad and dark... It suits the trailer and the character so much ><
I heard that the one who composed the lyric knows nothing about Latin grammar or sth like that. T__T Kinda disappointed when I heard that.

However, I like the melody and her voice ^^. All of FF's theme songs are so cool ><

[Misschoco]

I heard that the one who composed the lyric knows nothing about Latin grammar or sth like that. T__T Kinda disappointed when I heard that.


i guess thats why it was so damn hard to translate the piece:nag: that me and others tried to do

[Lucrecia]

They say the lyrics has something to do with a tragedy of the main character and how he has to face some punishment with the soldiers. Also, something about children's groans. Check out a video with the translations. I think there is one on IGN.com.

[Misschoco]

They say the lyrics has something to do with a tragedy of the main character and how he has to face some punishment with the soldiers. Also, something about children's groans. Check out a video with the translations. I think there is one on IGN.com.
you may be refering to a video on youtube with the translation.

The one_neo bahamut from ffxii.net and me done our best at translating the lyrics from the trailer.

then i subbed the trailer with the translation and put it onto youtube-be aware thats the original fan made dubbed trailer on youtube but the translation isnt exact but its accurate

Heres the first ever dubed version made by me-but the quality isnt perfect (also credits to the one_neo bahamut)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v30L25mGkDs

[Lifrasthir]

Cool Miss Choco. There is another one that sounds like an entire Latin class subbed with Latin and English.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0u7xTHvv4Y

[Lucrecia]

you may be refering to a video on youtube with the translation.

The one_neo bahamut from ffxii.net and me done our best at translating the lyrics from the trailer.

then i subbed the trailer with the translation and put it onto youtube-be aware thats the original fan made dubbed trailer on youtube but the translation isnt exact but its accurate

Heres the first ever dubed version made by me-but the quality isnt perfect (also credits to the one_neo bahamut)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v30L25mGkDs

Yeah those are the lyrics that I was talking about. I heard that they changed the lyrics again. I forget where I saw them though.

[Misschoco]

Yeah those are the lyrics that I was talking about. I heard that they changed the lyrics again. I forget where I saw them though.
:nag: yh these 2 twats did another translation after ours saying ours wasnt as accurate as theirs.apparently their 'latin teacher helped them.those faggots were probably lying

and..............

when i checked their translation they had mispelt latin words and some of the translated words didnt match and in some cases one or 2 of their translated lines were completely wrong :lol:

[Lucrecia]

:nag: yh these 2 twats did another translation after ours saying ours wasnt as accurate as theirs.apparently their 'latin teacher helped them.those faggots were probably lying

and..............

when i checked their translation they had mispelt latin words and some of the translated words didnt match and in some cases one or 2 of their translated lines were completely wrong :lol:

Haha. I'm not that good at the latin language because I haven't had the studies for it yet, so I don't know if the words are mispelled or what. However, I prefer the first translation better because it just goes with the trailer and so far how the storyline is going to be from what Nomura says. The second translation doesn't make any sense to me.

[Misschoco]

Haha. I'm not that good at the latin language because I haven't had the studies for it yet, so I don't know if the words are mispelled or what. However, I prefer the first translation better because it just goes with the trailer and so far how the storyline is going to be from what Nomura says. The second translation doesn't make any sense to me.
thank you :nod:

the 1st translation was the one the one_neo bahamut and me done

the 2nd supposed accurate translation didnt make sense ;)

[Ultima Star]

For me it really fit with the images, I was so excited with it I remember that the only thing I got was "Et nocte perpetua" or somethnig like that maybe because I'm not a native english-speaker I can understand a bit more, besides my mother knows a bit of latin so she made me a little translation of it

[Lucrecia]

For me it really fit with the images, I was so excited with it I remember that the only thing I got was "Et nocte perpetua" or somethnig like that maybe because I'm not a native english-speaker I can understand a bit more, besides my mother knows a bit of latin so she made me a little translation of it


Yeah the lyrics that were first translated really do fit the images. At first I wasn't even paying attention to the lyrics/singing because I'm used to the different kinds of languages in Final Fantasy. But when I first saw the lyrics to the song it made me even more eager for the game to come out. Oh and is your mom a fan of it?Just wondering.

[Ultima Star]

A fan of FF?? well not really a fan but she likes it....she enjoys watching me playing the games and cos of that I have to translate everything into Spanish(my real language) and she also loves KH.....kinda weird O.o

[Terros]

To me the first one worked better.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

A fan of FF?? well not really a fan but she likes it....she enjoys watching me playing the games and cos of that I have to translate everything into Spanish(my real language) and she also loves KH.....kinda weird O.o

My parents like watching me play sometimes too :nod:
I translate the dialogues to Chinese (which is a toughie sometimes >_<) and they watch and be amazed of the graphics of the wonderful world of Final Fantasy!! :P

[Mad_Hatter]

I don't get the lyric at all *cries*
I wish I know Latin but too bad, I don't

The 2 translations have the same err... general idea about the song but the chorus is translated differently

I mean...
A man is divided
he faces a tragedy and is sent away
<--- pardon my bad english but I have no idea what it TRULY means...Okay, I understand perfectly every word but the whole sentence doesn't make sense to me.

I'm not criticize any translation. I actually appreciate your hard working and great talent in Latin (which I have none). I juts simply don't understand so I just wanna ask.

I love the melody >< It's PERFECT!!!!
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My parents HATE anything related to Asia, which is funny because I'm asian. Basically, I'm banned from playing, reading, watching, listening to Asian songs, movies, games..etc

However, Final fantasy is an exception. I think my dad likes the graphic only so he lets me do whatever I want with it but only up to a certain level. If there's any FF festival, I would NEVER allowed to go TT__TT.

Thanks God that the second trailer isn't shown here... If there is I would stab myself and rebel if my Dad wouldn't let me go.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

I don't get the lyric at all *cries*
I wish I know Latin but too bad, I don't

The 2 translations have the same err... general idea about the song but the chorus is translated differently

I mean...
A man is divided
he faces a tragedy and is sent away
<--- pardon my bad english but I have no idea what it TRULY means...Okay, I understand perfectly every word but the whole sentence doesn't make sense to me.

I'm not criticize any translation. I actually appreciate your hard working and great talent in Latin (which I have none). I juts simply don't understand so I just wanna ask.

I love the melody >< It's PERFECT!!!!

I think the sentence probably meant he is sandwiched between two sides, maybe the crystal and the rest of the world? And the next sentence means something bad is happening but I don't know the "is sent away" part

:blink:

[Ultima Star]

Sent way part?I've never heard of that.

[Terros]

I think the sentence probably meant he is sandwiched between two sides, maybe the crystal and the rest of the world? And the next sentence means something bad is happening but I don't know the "is sent away" part

:blink:
I think it means he is or will be in some form of exile.

[Misschoco]

To me the first one worked better.

thank you

that was the point i was trying to get across :rolleyes:

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

I think it means he is or will be in some form of exile.

Exile?! But he's the last in line for the throne, they can't put a king in exile... can they? :blink:

[Misschoco]

Exile?! But he's the last in line for the throne, they can't put a king in exile... can they? :blink:

well the pain he gets is probably from the bonds he shares with the other characters......
....like nomura said it would be

[Ultima Star]

Exile? like when if other character dies he will feel a pain that will...uh..hurt his soul and then his heart would b in exile, like say it will fade away slowly and he will become a heartless man...but with all the pain in his heart still inside him

[Terros]

Yes, that's good, exile doesn't necessarily mean he'll be literally banished.

[Ultima Star]

Which one is good? my theory?

[Terros]

Yes your theory, more or less. ^_^ If I don't quote, I'm usually reffering the comment before mine.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Exile? like when if other character dies he will feel a pain that will...uh..hurt his soul and then his heart would b in exile, like say it will fade away slowly and he will become a heartless man...but with all the pain in his heart still inside him

Oh that's so cool! So he is connected to those people? ...And that marks the theory about him being completely cold-hearted and uncaing of others! YAAAYYYYY!!

[Terros]

Yes, he'll probably be somewhat cold.

[Misschoco]

Exile?! But he's the last in line for the throne, they can't put a king in exile... can they? :blink:
but we shouldn't just seclude these lyrics to him alone. The word exile could also be referring to his kingdom and not just him mainly

[Ultima Star]

Yes I agree :nod: but i'm also sticking with my theory :nod:

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Ya'll theories are all good! I hope that's what the story is really about! :nod:

[Terros]

but we shouldn't just seclude these lyrics to him alone. The word exile could also be referring to his kingdom and not just him mainly

Very true.

[Ultima Star]

Yes, that's true :nod:
Misschoco's theory it's also a good one :nod:

[Terros]

It makes sense, all nations seemed to be against him and his kingdom. You could they his country has been exiled from the world.

[Ultima Star]

...so now you mean his kingdom it's not in the world? and that....oh wait I think i get it..it's like if his country was a forbidden one, am I right?

[Terros]

Yes, it's shunned and envied by every other country, that's why it's under attack.

[Ultima Star]

ok...O.o....so there must be a reason on why his country it's envy by the others..besides that he has a crystal, right?

[Terros]

Precisely.

[Ultima Star]

So his country has something that is also important, besides than a crystal...maybe his country is very rich!

[Terros]

Probably due to the crystal and the advancements it provides.

[Alphonse]

Yea! Nice! You guys sure are thinking of this a lot!

[Terros]

Well with such little information there isn't much else to do! XD

[Misschoco]

It makes sense, all nations seemed to be against him and his kingdom. You could they his country has been exiled from the world.
yh that would lead away from the theory that the main character himself is in exile but in fact is his kingdom being the only kind in ffvxiii's universe then it would seem secluded from the outer world where there could be so many places like the outer world

hope that made sense :blink:

[Ultima Star]

I think that maybe his country it's been forbidden by ages, and that the country has a shard well we do know that his country has a crystal...but maybe because of this people forget that his country even existed!
Perhaps the crystal made a barrier around his country and only the people that know about the crystal remember his country and the people that don't know this also don't know about him and his country....well I think it could be like that----ok....I hope it made sense

[Alphonse]

Well with such little information there isn't much else to do! XD

Yeah. I want Nomura to realease more info.!

[Misschoco]

Perhaps the crystal made a barrier around his country and only the people that know about the crystal remember his country and the people that don't know this also don't know about him and his country....well I think it could be like that----ok....I hope it made sense
but then how would the soldiers from the outer world be able to enter?????
wait i get you know :P

but that theory could be true considering storms kingdom seems a lil' secluded

[Ultima Star]

Yeah that is was I was trying to say...I mean that people don't know about his country because of the crystal perhaps it made a barrier and 'normal people' don't even know that he is there...but when you said that how the soldiers from outter world came it's because they have knowledge about the crystals..ok....do you get it now? That is one of my theories :nod:

[Terros]

Yeah. I want Nomura to realease more info.!

We'll have to wait cause there's no way, he'll give info to the westerners before the japanese.

[Ultima Star]

...yes that's bad....
I would like to be japanese!

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Just fly to Japan lol
...But then we have to take Japanese lessons to understand the info :D

[Ultima Star]

....It was a good idea and then you shoot me down, why fearless?!
But yes..even though we went to Japan we are not gonna understand a single thing XD

[Misschoco]

Yeah that is was I was trying to say...I mean that people don't know about his country because of the crystal perhaps it made a barrier and 'normal people' don't even know that he is there...but when you said that how the soldiers from outter world came it's because they have knowledge about the crystals..ok....do you get it now? That is one of my theories :nod:
yh i get it:D.............but by you saying only normal people dont know about it....then if this theory is true theres something about the soldiers that would be peculiar for example in a trailer description for ffvxiii's 2nd trailer it said that the enemy seemed to be multiplying from the blood???????

[Lifrasthir]

Just fly to Japan lol

Random comment: Japan ain't exactly the best place to go. One of my friends (who's flies everywhere around the world) said that decapitation is on the rise over there. 0_0

I got a comment from someone who said that the tittle was "Somnus Nemuri" instead of "Somnus Nemoris"....He/she said that Nemuri was a Japanese word that, when translated, had something to do with sleep/sleepiness.

Very cool, but the song is called Somnus -Nemuri-. A bunch of Italian fans translated the Latin lyrics, and they thought that Nemuri was the Latin word "Nemoris," but it's actually "Nemuri," a Japanese word that has something to do with sleep/sleepiness.

Somnus is the Roman personification of sleep. That's the comment he/she left.

[Terros]

yh i get it:D.............but by you saying only normal people dont know about it....then if this theory is true theres something about the soldiers that would be peculiar for example in a trailer description for ffvxiii's 2nd trailer it said that the enemy seemed to be multiplying from the blood???????

I'm sorry I didn't understand a thing you just said...what about blood?

[Ultima Star]

What do you mean it was multiplying from the blood?
you mean like...when one soldier was destroyed than from his blood in the ground came out more soldiers? Is that what you're trying to say? :blink:
And yeah when I say 'normal' people I mean that they could just be normal humans and that they don't have any special powers

[Terros]

Yeah that really didn't make any sense....

[Ultima Star]

What didn't make sense? what I said or what misschoco said? ..well..:blink:?

[Terros]

Yes what misschoco said.

[Ultima Star]

Well who knows..perhaps it's not that strange :rolleyes:

[Misschoco]

I'm sorry I didn't understand a thing you just said...what about blood?
heres what i tried to explain about the blood

extract from jump festa trailer description for ffvxiii
Blood which is pushed down splash coming out properly, it increases the enemy

[Ultima Star]

huh? now I'm really confused @.@

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Me too :blink: Was that an explaination or a riddle? Sounds like something out of Shakespeare play

[Terros]

heres what i tried to explain about the blood

extract from jump festa trailer description for ffvxiii

Was that a translation? Cause it still makes no sense.

[Misschoco]

Was that a translation? Cause it still makes no sense.
yh.....D/W forget it i dont think it makes sense either ;)

[Ultima Star]

....I'm not sure about it....I just don't get the 'it increases the enemy' part ^_^

[Lifrasthir]

yh.....D/W forget it i dont think it makes sense either ;)

Are we talking about that quote they have from Shakesphere? "There is neither good nor bad, but thinking makes is so." That one?

[Ultima Star]

Nope she was talking about something she read of the extract of the Jump Festa trailer:

"Blood wich is pushed down splash coming put properly it increases the enemy"

that's what she said:nod:

[Lifrasthir]

Um...that's very bad English...:blink:

[Ultima Star]

I was just rewriting what Misschoco said :(

[Lifrasthir]

I know, it's not your fault. I'm guessing a bad translation or something.

[Ultima Star]

Yes it was a bad translation...but..anyway..arranging it somehow you can find some meaning on it^_^

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Huh? So what's the meaning? :'(

[Ultima Star]

That perhaps when you hit the opponents and completely bet them down and all of their blood is lying on the ground...from that blood new enemies appear well at least that is what I understood XD

[Lifrasthir]

It could be symbolism..

[Ultima Star]

symbolism? what do you mean by that?:blink:

[Lifrasthir]

Meaning your theory could be right to a certain degree.
That perhaps when you hit the opponents and completely bet them down and all of their blood is lying on the ground...from that blood new enemies appear well at least that is what I understood XD
blood=new enemies could well be it. But, it could have to do with enemy nations, like their grounds...or it could have to do with with the evil inside someone...something like that.

[Desi]

I take it more to be like: The more blood he splits of the enemy the more tension he causes between the nations. Their hate for eachother grows, their rift widens, and he'll have a multitude of more soldiers knocking down his door until he is overwhelmed.

Simply, you kill one they send out two more for you to fight.

[Ultima Star]

you mean...that it depends on where are they fighting? is that what you said TF?

[Lifrasthir]

No no, that was just a suggestion for the symbolism theory.

[Desi]

You kill 500. They put you up against 1000. From the blood of the fallen troops they send out more to take thier place. But none of this is similar to a cold war, more so a full out total war.

[Lifrasthir]

Blood spills from enemies=the enemy numbers double.

[Ultima Star]

that's what the 'it increases the enemy' part meant

[Terros]

yh.....D/W forget it i dont think it makes sense either ;)

We'll just have to wait and see.

[Ultima Star]

Yes..just wait...

[Terros]

Yeah, who's up for another round of the waiting game!? *sarcasm*

[Ultima Star]

.....Me! sooo this topic it's about the trailer music *points at the topic name*..so what else can we talk about?...the lyrics perhaps...or we've been analizing that :unsure:

[Lifrasthir]

Is the name of the song "Somnus Nemoris" which is Latin. Or is it "Somnus Nemuri" which is Japanese...I guess...I got a comment on my video from some person who said this:
Very cool, but the song is called Somnus -Nemuri-. A bunch of Italian fans translated the Latin lyrics, and they thought that Nemuri was the Latin word "Nemoris," but it's actually "Nemuri," a Japanese word that has something to do with sleep/sleepiness.

Somnus is the Roman personification of sleep.

[Desi]

Latin.

[Lifrasthir]

So the dude who left that comment was wrong?

[Desi]

Sure why not?

[Lifrasthir]

Lok 'kay...But yeah, it does make sense that the name would be Latin because the lyrics to the song is Latin.

[Desi]

One-Winged Angel, but yeah. I say it is Latin anyway, no need for the title to say the same thing twice.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

What's up with people and Latin, how about Japanese? :rolleyes: So most FF music is in Latin??

[Ultima Star]

As Desi said One Winged Angel (FF7)
-Liberi Fatali (FF8)
- The Hymn of the fayth(FF 10)...I think XD

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

As Desi said One Winged Angel (FF7)
-Liberi Fatali (FF8)
- The Hymn of the fayth(FF 10)...I think XD

That's it? Ohhhh.... :P No wonder my mom doesn't get the meaning of the Hymn in FFX

[Ultima Star]

XD yeah I think that's Latin..but I'm not too sure :unsure:

[Desi]

Memoro de la Ŝtono from FFXI as well. Said to be sung in Esperanto, a language that shares similarities with Latin (a lot).

[Ultima Star]

So most of the FF games have songs in Latin and also use a lot of classical music

[Desi]

well no, FF's use a lot of techno, pop, and classical.

Songs with lyrics are normally in japanese, english, or forms of latin.

[Terros]

When do you think they'll release an official translation?

[Desi]

They never do. People have to find them out themselves. Well unless the soundtracks have the lyrics but I'm to lazy to look.

[Terros]

And the soundtrack usually comes out after the game...?

[Desi]

Soundtracks are normally released around the same time window as the game.

[Ultima Star]

well no, FF's use a lot of techno, pop, and classical.

Songs with lyrics are normally in japanese, english, or forms of latin.

Well for the background most of the time are classical at least in FF VII and VIII most of the time I heard classicacl music.
But then yes there's techno:nod: and it's pretty good, The songs with Lyrics? like Eyes on Me, Suteki Da ne and the ones from FF X-2 right? well so I see FF has a wide variety of music

[Terros]

Indeed, it does, you know there isn't really a FF with a primarily rock music selection.

[Ultima Star]

Completely rock? I'm not sure...

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

"OtherWorld" from FFX is the only pure rock music I hear

[Ultima Star]

What about AC's one windeg angel? oh no..that was combined XD

[Desi]

AC's One-Winged Angel and Still more fighting (during bahamut, boss battle music) were both rock. The original still more fighting was techno/rock mix. I forget the new name of the song though on the first black mages sountrack.

[Terros]

What type of music do you think would best suit the game?

[Desi]

hmm the classical, opera, insturmental music from Gears of War. Beautiful music especially when I was expecting rock. But I can see some rock here and there just no god damn pop please.

[Terros]

Yes no pop, FF unfortunately has a history of bad pop music....>.> Yes I'm looking at you FFX-2.

[Ultima Star]

:blink: you all consider X-2 that bad?...........guess I'm the only that liked it I feel weird :blink:

[Terros]

It was a crappy game. With a cheesey story. And you had to do all this crap to get the good ending.

[Ultima Star]

....ok:blink: i thoug it was ok though...XD anyway let's go back to the topic

[Desi]

Yes no pop, FF unfortunately has a history of bad pop music....>.> Yes I'm looking at you FFX-2.

VIII and X had bad pop music too. I just don't want it all.

Country/blue grass could work for certain celebrations or areas. I don't see rap or hip-hop working since they both rely a lot on lyrics.

[Ultima Star]

Hip-hop wouldn't fit the game ^_^
I can sense lots of rock music combined with classical coming :shifty:

[Desi]

Please specify between rap or hip-hop because no matter what you hear on MTV they aren't the same.

[Ultima Star]

Well first I wrote it then I edit my post and put hip-hop but now I think that both wouldn't suit the game and then I said that what would suit the game was rock combined with classical ^_^

[Desi]

I would love to hear a explanation though. A why.

[Ultima Star]

The nature of the game....I can't imagine a king fighting and a hip-hop or rap song as the BGM...I can't >_<

[Desi]

If the nature of the game is preventing it, wouldn't rock not fit either? The whole saddness/friendship theme wouldn't really go well with rock music which normally is about getting excited. We aren't discussing lyrics because you can add any lyric you want to any style of music. But instrumental rock really wouldn't fit unless it wasn't exactly rock.

[Ultima Star]

perhaps for the battle scenes? you don't really want the game to be TOTALLY sad so I guess some rock, but also classical music would fit the game:)

Side note:OMG!!!! my 450th post!!!

[Desi]

but you can use a classical instrumental for battle. FFXI does that and it plays out very well.

I would like to hear jazz music for battle and blues for events. Jazz battle music is some of the best.

On the discussion of rock though what type of rock. Industrial, emo, punk, alternative, pop rock, metal. See rock is to varied to just say "Rock music".

[Ultima Star]

Yeah jazz would work too :nod:

[N O C T E]

What about Piano? That would work very well....I think....;)

[Ultima Star]

A game with different types of music^_^ cool...

[N O C T E]

Yep....Piano would still be best.:D

[Ultima Star]

um...yeah...classical music would fit it best...but I still want to hear some rock combined with classical ^_^

[Lifrasthir]

Rock? As in One Winged Angel?

[Ultima Star]

that is classical combined with rock^_^

[N O C T E]

That has been done before and it was horrible...In POP, Warrior Within, they replaced the nice, indian themed soundtrack with hard rock stuff, it was bad...:(

[Lifrasthir]

Hm...don't know if that'd sound good...

[N O C T E]

Well, it did not sound bad per se, but when you are trying to concentrate on outrunning the Dahaka, you can't with hard rock blasting. Although it does get you pissed which is good for the game.....Lets just sya that indian soundtracks fit the games better....:D

[Lifrasthir]

Hm...most likely since the game'll be dark they'll infuse alot of classical music with something eerie sounding...oh, the composer better be good.

[N O C T E]

I think it would be kinda cool if they did like they do in RE4, and just not even have BGM at some parts, not only does it add to the suspense, it might fit the game well in some parts....

[Lifrasthir]

Just have wind blowing at one point without anything to ruin the moment...:D

[N O C T E]

Sorta, like when you are walking in a castle, just be able to hear you clashing swords with people and your footsteps or any other sounds that would come from your actions while playing.....;)

[Terros]

Points of the game with dead silence makes good effect. But I believe Square already knows this.

[Ultima Star]

with an extreme silence...it'd be good but creepy at the same time ^_^

[Lifrasthir]

That's the point. Creepy..

[Ultima Star]

the point?...you mean that the game has to be creepy...*shivers*..lol.....and we're not going to know when the enmies are going to appear....like if it was a horro game...*shivers*

[Desi]

It makes use of the enviroment to express emotion. So a stroll through a long corridor wouldn't have music to make the trip feel longer and empty.

[Ultima Star]

AND creepy and then the lights go out and a bunch of enemies appear, and when the lights turn on....voila! we're dead

[Desi]

Ok, you are tripping. We aren't really giving gameplay scernarios but simply how something would work.

You are describing how a event would take place.

[Ultima Star]

lol...yeah sorry..that just came in my mind...so let's continue with the real discussion of this thread:nod:

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

The music gives off a majestic yet creepy and sad feeling at the same time. :nod:

[Lifrasthir]

The music is supposed to set the theme for a certain event or place. Like Those Who Fight is played when the FFVII team first fights Bahamut Zero in AC. It's faced paced (dims down for dialogue) and supposed to get the adrenaline going. So, I'm guessing most music in Versus XIII will not be smooth sailing, pleasant songs.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

The music is supposed to set the theme for a certain event or place. Like Those Who Fight is played when the FFVII team first fights Bahamut Zero in AC. It's faced paced (dims down for dialogue) and supposed to get the adrenaline going. So, I'm guessing most music in Versus XIII will not be smooth sailing, pleasant songs.

Yes, but there's not going to be rock music either (well, for the most part) :blink:

[Ultima Star]

You're not going to listen something soft when you're supposed to be kicking the enmies.....you know what follows it :cunning:

[Lifrasthir]

Probably wouldn't set the right mood. But then again there could be surprises.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

You're not going to listen something soft when you're supposed to be kicking the enmies.....you know what follows it :cunning:

Hard metal lol Will that fit with the game?

[Ultima Star]

yes you're very right...I want to hear rock combined with classical..Mr. Uetmatsu knows how to do that :rolleyes:

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

yes you're very right...I want to hear rock combined with classical..Mr. Uetmatsu knows how to do that :rolleyes:

Too bad he doesn't work for FF anymore :(

[Ultima Star]

wow really :ohmy: didn't know that:(

[Lifrasthir]

Please no hard metal.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

How about a hard metal/classical mix? Like Ultima said :D

[Lifrasthir]

Lol perhaps...I just think that hard metal would upset the theme in Versus.

[Ultima Star]

no! hard metal no! rock with classical :D yes!

[Lifrasthir]

I want eerie sounding songs..

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Yes, but they would most likely be slow moving

[Ultima Star]

And we want ADRENALINE!!!

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Ack, this is so indecisive, I feel bad for those game music composers :blink:

[Ultima Star]

They're not going to listen to us..so don't feel bad

[Desi]

I still say jazz, blues, and country.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Oh no, jazz music gives me nightmares :blink:

[Lifrasthir]

I like some jazz. Blues might sound good but no guarentees...we'll just have to be surprised.

[Ultima Star]

Yeah! with a musical combination!

[Terros]

We'll probably here different music based on the situation. I think it'll alternate between rock and classical.

[Ultima Star]

YES me too! though nobody listens :(

[Desi]

YES me too! though nobody listens :(

You don't listen neither. Almost everyone has said they want multiple music. Classical is so obvious it isn't even worth mentioning anymore so people are coming up with more varied genres.

[Ultima Star]

I have listened Mr.Desi..yes I have :nod:

[Terros]

...Opera? I think it would be interesting....or is that too classical. Techno? Nah...

[Ultima Star]

Techno?...YAAAY :D
WOW i love techno!...sorry off topic:blink:

[Terros]

I don't think it would fit.

[Ultima Star]

Yes..I know..it seems to me that this game is going to have a lot of classical that's for sure

[Terros]

And a more operetic sound.

[Ultima Star]

Opera! Latin YAAAAAAAAY :blink:

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Yes, Opera :nod:

But pretty fast tempo opera, like 98 beats or something :blink:

[Terros]

The tempo should depend on what's happening at that particular time in the game.

[Ultima Star]

We're not going to be..let's say sleeping and with a fast tempo..or fighting with slow tempo..that's what you mean right Terros?

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Probably so, but I'll sure we won't see a sleeping scene again in the game because the war is probably going on out there

[Ultima Star]

No more Storm sleeping....I'm gonna miss it :(

[Lifrasthir]

I hope we get a wide variety of tempos. Instead of consisting of mostly fast ones, or mostly slow ones.

[Ultima Star]

Mid ones then? I'd like fast and mid tempos :D

[Lifrasthir]

Not mid ones. Just a large mix of different tempos.

[Ultima Star]

Ok, fast slow mid, slow mid fast, fast fast slow XD sorry off topic lol

[Lifrasthir]

Well, yeah basically. It might lean on the slower tempos but I believe that there'll be fast ones for like, boss fights, etc.

[Terros]

I it'll be that way as well.

[Ultima Star]

And also faster tempos for some events ^_^ besides fighting and boss fights

[Terros]

Like I said, the tempo will be dependant on the situation. That's what makes good music in a game, how well it goes with the game. Also what would be good is parts where there is dead silence.

[Ultima Star]

Dead silence!...wow creppy :blink: but it would suit due to the nature of the game ^_^

[Terros]

Yes, dead silence helps to bring out tension.

[Ultima Star]

The tension that an enemy is going to appear at anytime and it's gonna try to kill Storm :blink:

[Alphonse]

Dont know but it makes the game seem sad. Its a really biutifull song to me.

[007vader]

Here is the translation for the song http://www.gametrailers.com/umwatcher.php?id=37295 :)

[Terros]

The tension that an enemy is going to appear at anytime and it's gonna try to kill Storm :blink:

Yes, or something big is about to happen!

[Ultima Star]

Like...the castle falling on us?:blink: or perhaps dead silence before a main event^_^ or before finding a new member for the party..if there's a party:rolleyes:

[Alphonse]

What? Are you talking about the song?!

[Ultima Star]

Um..no..not the song..but the music in the game :nod:

[Alphonse]

Yeah! Well thats cool!

[Lifrasthir]

Here is the translation for the song http://www.gametrailers.com/umwatcher.php?id=37295 :)

I looked at those translations (they're the same as Miss Choco's translations so I'm assuming these ones are more accurate) anyways. Pretty cool. I'm looking foward to the game.

[Ultima Star]

It seems to me that the translation is better :nod: anyway...to hear the music makes you feel like you want this game a.s.a.p

[Terros]

Yes, the music definately captured the feel of the game. Also, they wouldn't use dead silence to find a new member of the party unless there was something really tense going on.

[Ultima Star]

...tense? like if the new party member was being attacked or something?..forget it if something like that happens then we would hear a lot of screams if the new party member was a girl though XD

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

What's wrong with girls? :rolleyes: I think dead silence is cool just don't overuse it

[Ultima Star]

.....I never said that something was worng with girls XD cos I'm a girl too..I would scream to death just so that storm appears and saves me:rolleyes:
Anyway, dead silence =creepy XD anyway yes but not too much as you said^_^

[Lifrasthir]

dead silence= awesome leverage for blood curling screams that appear out of nowhere. :D

[Terros]

Yes only when there are really tense moments.

[Ultima Star]

Yup yup ^_^ anyway do you think that they will add that 'go to sleep' musci or will it be dead silence too :blink:?

[Alphonse]

Ooh yeah! Thanks for the translation!

[Terros]

Yup yup ^_^ anyway do you think that they will add that 'go to sleep' musci or will it be dead silence too :blink:?
Depends on the effect they want.

[Ultima Star]

If he's really tired then perhaps a little 'go to sleep' music.....

[Terros]

Are you Talking about "Tellus Dormit"? (the song in the trailer)

[Lifrasthir]

Are you Talking about "Tellus Dormit"? (the song in the trailer)

I thought the trailer song was called "Somnus Nemoris". :unsure:

[Terros]

I honestly have no clue...

[Lifrasthir]

Eh, I have no clue either.

[N O C T E]

Does it even matter?:blink:

[Lifrasthir]

Does it even matter?:blink:

Yes it does! ><

(Damn the character limit...:nag:)

[Ultima Star]

Are you Talking about "Tellus Dormit"? (the song in the trailer)

No...when I said 'go to sleep' musci I was referring to that little sound you hear in the background when a character goes to sleep XD

[Lifrasthir]

Lawlz. I can hear that music playing right now...in my head. :ohmy:

[Terros]

I don't think you really need that....

[Ultima Star]

Not for this game right?

[Terros]

No, not for this game, plus to be honest. I find that rather CHEESY!

[Lifrasthir]

Cheesy is an understatement Ter.

[Terros]

Yes, it probably is an understatement.

[Ultima Star]

Well..yes you're right..it'll be weird to see Storm going to sleep with that music on the background:blink:

[Alphonse]

I guess it would. That music sounds better when his faiting like a badass!

[Terros]

Well..yes you're right..it'll be weird to see Storm going to sleep with that music on the background:blink: Not just that, it would be stupid.

[Ultima Star]

OH..okay..lol..:blink:...yeah *sees storm* yeah totally stupid

[Alphonse]

Hell yeah! It would make him look like a bumnass!

[Terros]

Exactly, that is just way too much cheese-factor.

[Ultima Star]

edit: forget what I said

[Alphonse]

Exactly, that is just way too much cheese-factor.

Yep! It just wouldent be cool.

Shes yalking about how dumn it would look him doing that.

[Terros]

edit: forget what I said
Trust me we already have.

[Alphonse]

edit: forget what I said

Okay. Glad I could help.

[Ultima Star]

Trust me we already have.

ok...:(

anyway what now?